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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe the issue is the word whitening. I’ve never heard that and it does sound hostile or just offensive even if trie. You’d never be caught dead saying blackening that’s for sure.[/quote] Right — concentration of white students would have been less awkward [/quote] But the problem isn’t the white students (who are IB and just following the rules and attending thei IB schools.) The problem is that black kids’ IB schools are failing. [/quote] What if “the rules” were changed to be less inclined to increasing levels of segregation? Eg, end by right high school, real set asides, synchronized middle and high school entry years. Would that fix every failing school? No. But it would address the inequalities that are unavoidable with segregated schools in America.[/quote] if it was persistent enough, you'd just see a new generation of white flight schools. No parent in Chevy Chase is sending their kid to Ballou[/quote] 100%. Families will move out of the city or go private. I don't want to schlep across the city for a GREAT school and I definitely wouldn't put up with it for a poorly rated school. We want a school we can walk to, who's proximity makes it easy to be an active participant/parent, who's population is largely in the neighborhood (for easy after school socialization). If by right schools go away, we'd move to MoCo. I'm okay with tightening up the boundaries to make room for at risk OOB students, but I think preserving neighborhood schools is [u]extremely[/u] important.[/quote] I don't know why you guys bring up whites leaving. DCPS has made it very clear they don't care. They DO care about donors whose kids are already in private leaving or their childless donors. Not white families like yours, DCPS is actually interested in serving low SES families most of the time and they tend to not be white.[/quote] I used to believe that DCPS is interested in serving low SES families but I no longer do. We have failing schools full of low SES kids across the city with no improvement in their outcomes. DCPS is interested in covering up their failures by sending these kids to schools with higher performing kids, or sending higher performing kids to these schools. It’s lazy and doomed to fail because the higher performing kids have the means to leave if they don’t like the hand they are dealt.[b] I feel for DCPS in a way because there is no way that school alone can help the issues plaguing many children in wards 7 & 8[/b].[/quote] Nor is it their job or responsibility to. These kids' issues start at home. Until we are willing to call that out as a society, this is a continuing downward spiral.[/quote] I agree it’s not DCPS’s responsibility. However, many people — politicians, parents, etc — apparently expect schools to fix the ills of poverty, and many educational leaders seem to want to take on the mission as though it’s noble, even if it dilutes focus on the job of education.[/quote] Spoken like a privileged person. Yea sure let's focus on education, I'm sure while mom is getting beaten, gun shots are being fired, food is not on the table, drugs are being used, homeless, etc. those kids are focused on their ABC's and 123's. Dang DCPS! Don't they know they should JUST focus on education?![/quote] So it is your belief that DCPS should try to address domestic violence, gun control, violent crime, drug use, and homelessness? That's quite a task list you've come up with. Talk about setting the system up to fail. [/quote] No silly, but educators should focus on how to teach children to cope with such things, have parent outreach, etc. And FYI we ARE expected to do that, you seriously though teachers were just teachers? Seriously? Why do you think we always want more money? As a special education teacher I do my job, I am a case manager, the gen ed teacher, the counselor, the social worker, mandated reported, child care provider, nurse, cook, parent therapist, etc. Before covid I had received my LICSW. Many of the families I serve are going through trauma or went through it. Is it right that teachers should have to do this? No. But I wanted to. And I do not do this for the whole school, I do have boundaries. And do all teachers encompass all of the roles I listed? No, *cough title 2 teachers. Just kidding, kind of. Do I think DC should step up more for the community side of things? ABSOLUTELY!!! But generational issues keep going, and I do think I can help break the cycle for the students I serve. [/quote] I know you do all those things, that you work harder than you are supposed to, and that you care a lot. But you describe exactly what I think is a big problem. You shouldn’t get paid more; someone additional should get paid for one of the jobs — teacher or social worker. It would cost more, but then you both could do your jobs more fully. Now, you can make a difference for some kids, but you can’t change the trajectory for a wise-swath of students on your own. The system works the way it does now — teacher as social worker — because it’s cheap and the providers find it personally rewarding. But it’s a bad choice on the managers’ (eg, the mayor) parts because it won’t lead to the level of change needed. Same short-shrift solution; same results....[/quote] But teachers will never just be 'teachers,' being a licensed therapist is obviously not part of our job but helping students emotionally and socially is. That is NOT academically based. And can I ask how you think 1 social worker is going to be able to help the 200+ children with issues? That may not be the case at your high SES school but it's the reality of mine and many others. Fb[b] They will NEVER fun 4 social workers/or counselors for 1 school.[/b] When will you acknowledge that teaching is no longer 'just' teaching? And it's funny you think I'm not fully supporting my kids lol, it's very easy for me to support 21 kids, related service providers support 50-75 students part time.[/quote] Why not? That’s exactly what should happen. And their should be social workers working intensively with families outside of school as is helpful. Are the kids st your school at grade level and sustaining that as they proceed through school? If not, how is that going to change without investment in more capable professionals spending time with and supporting each student?[/quote]
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