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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I truly don’t understand why the leap to changing pronouns is so important. There always used to be women who dressed and presented masculine. In the past it was frowned upon for men to dress in an effeminate way, and I think it’s a good thing that that perception has improved over time. But I don’t see why the big announcement about pronouns.[/quote]

If you prefer to be referred to as she, would it bother you if people kept calling you he, or vice versa?[/quote]

If you truly believe in equality across all people, why should it matter?  Should there even be he/she?

Upthread someone brought up the changing thoughts biologists have about sex.  (Although, I would add that insulting people for not being familiar with current research in this area is sh*tty and smug.  I guarantee I can find plenty of areas of modern research that PP knows nothing about and they would not appreciate being denigrated for it.)  If sex is fluid, what does this mean on so many levels?  So much emphasis on including women in health in research?  If sex is so fluid and influenced by so many factors, than is there really male and female?  Does it matter on any level, for health or anything else?  Is it really fluid or is our understanding of what we perceive as variation really just a reflection of inadequate study?  What is the true percentage of variation? Who knows?

But if you are going to argue that sex is fluid and gender is fluid, then why even have someone designate as male or female?  And who gets to decide what those things mean? Why get hung up on a pronoun?  Why would you be insulted by being identified by one or the other?

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And I guarantee that the very people insisting gender/sex is fluid and that we shouldn’t have to “conform” to social constructs, etc. - are the very same people who obsess over the gender of our elected officials.  So ironic.[/quote]

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