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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard
Yale, Stanford
MIT
rest of the Ivies
Duke
Chicago

Nobody really gives a damn about Hopkins, Northwestern, Vandy, etc. at the undergraduate level. Everyone knows status-obsessed families outside of the Ivy Plus schools were rejected from all of them. Not cream of the crop.[/quote]

+1. Only striver mediocrities obsess over this crap. The elites will always be elite.[/quote]

The undisputed elites:

Harvard, Stanford
Yale, MIT
Princeton

The rest are pretenders needing ED contracts to boost their yield.[/quote]

Based on what?

Rice, Caltech, Ga tech, and Harvey Mudd are wayyyy better schools than Princeton, Yale or Harvard for things like engineering.   Harvard and Yale are great for getting inflated grades in useless fields that are paths to become a consultant or lawyer who gets paid big bucks to outsource jobs or ruin the country later as a politician, hedge fund manager, corporate lobbyist, or some other sell out who ships jobs overseas.  [/quote]

So Princeton, Harvard and Yale produce the people who run our country and influences its fate, but you're down on them?  Come back when the other school you listed start producing significant numbers of leaders.[/quote]

And look how thing are going.  Could we please try voting in some engineers?  They could not do any worse.[/quote]

President Hoover was an engineer.  The Great Depression worked out well for him.  Jimmy Carter took Nuclear Engineering and couldn't pronounce it properly.[/quote]

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