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Why do none of these arguments, or any arguments for the existence of God, count as possible evidence?  Or, conversely, what evidence would you require?[/quote]

We could have lengthy discussions about any of them.  I don't see how it makes sense to respond to a laundry list of things you found in a book but don't personally believe in.  If your point is "here are a dozen or so reasons, surely one of them must be a winner" then I'd like to get to the ones that you think are important.[/quote]

Because you want to convince me I should not believe in God?  (Trying to figure out how to choose)[/quote]

No, as a matter of fact I personally believe in God.  But I do not want to have a conversation with a book.  I want to talk to a person who thinks about and believes in an argument.  [/quote]

I personally believe in each of the arguments to varying degrees.  Each argument had a part in convincing my intellect that is it reasonable to believe in God.  But my final "therefore, I believe" was an act of the will, not of the intellect.  And each of these arguments utilizes the intellect, rather than the will.

So in that sense, the atheists here are right.  I cannot prove God exists, because I can inform the intellect, but I cannot force the will, and since we do not live face to face with God, "I know" does become "I believe."

That is why there is the faith of a child, the faith of a simple person, and the faith of an intellectual giant.  I am no intellectual giant.  So I relish a discussion about any argument for the existence of God, but readily admit I may not be up to the task.  I would prefer an argument based on physical objective truth, such as the laws of physics, because most rational people accept there is objective truth, just not moral objective truth.
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