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I do not accept that God must obscure his presence in order to allow us to have freedom. Adam and Eve knew God and disobeyed him. So did Judas. Satan is a fallen angel. Peter denied God three times, having seen Jesus both in real life and in the Transfiguration. Moses disobeyed God once, having been to the burning bush. I see adequate proof that the freedom to obey or disobey does not require ambiguity as to God's existence. But think about it, where is the virtue in expecting people to go on a scavenger hunt for right and wrong, if there is a God who defines objective morality?[/quote]

PP. you have placed your finger on the source of my doubt.  Not only did I spend a very, very long time asking questions and studying faith from every angle, I even had (insert eye rolls) a somewhat mystical experience when I felt the love of God.  And yet, here I am, doubting everything, just exactly as you described.  Honestly, the thing that keeps my faith around is what one of the disciples said to Jesus after he gave an exceptionally hard teaching and most of the crowd walked away.  Jesus said to his few remaining friends, "What about you?  Are you going to leave, too?"  And his friend answered, "To whom would we go?"

Which is why I keep asking for someone to give an alternate source of objective truth about right and wrong.[/quote]

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