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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Is the fancy restaurant jacking up its prices to let some people eat for free, making it full price unattainable for this who otherwise might be able to afford it. [/quote] Another incredibly stupid and ignorant argument. Colleges lower prices for students with financial needs so they can get the students they WANT. It's not charitable. [quote]The difference between the Ivys and the restaurant is that the Ivys are getting a huge tax break and are still increasing their tuition in amounts that way outpaces inflation. [/quote] "the Ivys are getting a huge tax break" Yeah so is every non-profit, including non-ivy colleges, the Red Cross, the corner church, and your local gun club. Ridiculous and misleading to imply "The Ivys" are getting some special consideration. [quote]You're right, an Ivy education is not a necessity so maybe my tax dollars should not be supplementing tax breaks to provide select segments of society a free luxury. If as you say a state school is good enough for donut hole families, it's also good enough for poor families. [/quote] They are good enough for poor families. But why should poor kids go there when a better school wants them? (Oh, and PS, Einstein, state schools, especially directionals and such, are MOSTLY poor kids.) [quote]There should be no tax exemption for Ivys, and the rich can fully fund the schools so their kids can go their. [/quote] There isn't a "tax exemption for Ivys". WTF are you thinking? [quote]If my tax dollars aren't supplementing luxuries for others, then the fact that I can't afford the luxury doesn't offend me. [/quote] Yeah and I don't get free donuts, so no tax break for the Red Cross either! And I don't go to your church, so tax that MFer! The difference is others think you CAN afford it. Who gets to decide if you do or not? Only you. No one is making you pay.[/quote] There is a huge difference between organizations that provide a luxury and those that provide for those in need like the Red Cross. Ivys fall into the former category. Again, no need for our tax dollars to support funding luxury items. And Ivys are tax exempt organizations, I didn't call the tax a specific "Ivy Tax Exemption," I merely stated there should be no tax exemptions for Ivys, meaning the should not be entitled to tax exempt status. And yes, I (as a taxpayer) am being made to indirectly pay for Ivys by the mere fact that our treasury is supplementing them by not charging taxes on their general income and their income and capital gains from their huge endowments. [/quote] [b]Education is a luxury [b]item[/b]? [/b] Only the Ivy colleges should be taxed? You ignore the points about gun and country clubs? How do those provide for people in need? This is where I get off the bus. You are a guy with some kind of anti-ivy agenda and I don't want to understand why. Good luck to you.[/quote] Yes an Ivy education is a luxury that no one is entitled to at $80,000 per year and increasing--as is so often pointed out to anyone on this board who says they can't afford it. You can't have it both ways. I'm not anti-Ivy, I'm anti the exponentially increasing cost of tuition at these institutions. Why isn't some portion of their partially taxpayer funded (through tax free growth) endowments being used to hold costs down. I'm anti greed. [/quote]
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