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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] And? Did that PP specifically call out a particular religion? It's pretty clear what this survey is...not sure how you'd interpret it any differently. [/quote] That wasn’t the first mention of the Pew survey on this thread. The first mention comes on page 11 st 15:08. There, an atheist responds to a post about atheists having a hard time understanding *Christianity* with a reference and link to this survey. The atheist was quite clearly claiming that atheists in general have a good understanding of Christianity. When in fact the survey says only 39% of atheists can name all 4 gospels, let alone what’s in them, which wasn’t asked. (Where atheists make it up is in their knowledge of basic facts about Hindustan, Jidiaism, and Islam.) So yes, an atheist was incorrectly using the Pew story to claim atheists have a supposed good understanding of Christianity. [/quote] OK. And Atheists/Agnostics still did better on the Christianity questions on this general survey that the Christians did. 6.7 questions correct over 6.2. So maybe that PP wasn't so far off. If Christians know so much about their own religion then why did they get fewer questions correct on this general survey? [img]https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2010/09/religious-knowledge-09.png[/img] And please feel free to provide a different (better?) source if you are trying to make a different point. [/quote] You must be the pp who originally posted this, still trying to defend it. Why did you include this table and not the table with the gospels question? Where only 39% of atheists could name the 4 gospels, vs. 70-71% of evangelicals and Mormons, and 50% of all Christians? In any case, on the table you did include, Catholics (55%) did much better than atheists (44%) on the question about Catholic beliefs about communion. Protestants didn’t do well on that question, but why would they. And why do you think it’s relevant that atheists are more likely to know Mother Theresa was Catholic (maybe they all read Sam Harris’ hatchet job on her) or that Martin Luther started the Reformation (tell me why he posted his 95 theses and I’ll be a little more impressed). In both cases, less than half of atheists (the median is 0) could answer a basic question (no deeper understanding required) about Catholic beliefs or the names of the gospels. So yeah, 15:08 on page 11 (you?) was using this study to deceive other posters into thinking atheists have some sort of “in depth” knowledge of Christianity specifically. [/quote] The gospel question is one of the 12 questions included on Christianity. See the comment at the bottom. I wasn't the 15:08 poster on page 11. And that poster didn't say "in-depth". And to recap: - 19% of Protestants knew the correct answer for the protestant question. (As compared to 22% of Atheists/Agnostics who got that right. Ha.) - And only 55% of Catholics know that bread/wine become body/blood? Very basic thing here. Even **I** know this. Atheists/Agnostics aren't alone in their "hard time understanding Christianity". Aside from the evangelicals and Mormons, a lot of Christians didn't do well on the VERY BASIC questions about Christianity. So it's very interesting that all animosity is directed towards atheists/agnostics. [/quote] Do you read the other posts? It doesn’t seem so. To help you, here’s a more complete recap than your endless spin masquerading as a “recap.” —Who is using the words “in depth”? Nobody but you. —In your 15:08 post, you were addressing a claim that atheists didn’t understand Christianity. You claimed the 2010 Pew survey proved otherwise. In fact, it proved that less than half of atheists (39%) can name all four gospels; less than half of atheists (41%) could answer the Catholic trans-substantiation question, and more Catholics got that question right. So, prima facie evidence that you flung the Pew link out there to as a reply to somebody doubting atheist knowledge of Christianity, and you hoped nobody would check and find you were misrepresenting it. —Pew recognized the 2010 Protestant question was flawed, as evidenced by their revised 2017 survey question. As shown the post right above your post, which you clearly couldn’t be bothered to read. Cheers [/quote] 1. Pew person used "in-depth" - as in, the survey is NOT in-depth. No one has disagreed. But as far as I can see she brought it up. http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/150/802593.page#15078633 2. I didn't post 15:08 (ask Jeff), but the survey does show that atheists/agnostics did score better (6.7) than christians (6.2) so it seems this survey does support 15:08's comments. 3. OK. So? That was one of twelve questions. [/quote]
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