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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. Weighted GPAs are worthless

2. High unweighted GPAs are not going to get you anywhere in the top 25 without a very rigorous course load with 4 years of every academic subject including foreign language.

3. Any college with a 25% or less acceptance rate is a lottery for kids with nearly perfect stats

4. Naviance does not account for recruits, legacies, courseload, first gen status, full pay status, etc.

5. It’s a tool, not a crystal ball. [/quote]

DD  had straight As, even in APs and honors, won the Wellesley Book Award, was a STEM student, could pay full tuition anywhere, cash. Played sports as well. Great SAT scores. White female with no legacy, rejected from everything but her safeties. Applied to no Ivys by choice.

Don’t tell me her race didn’t play a role in this liberal academic environment [/quote]

I worked in admissions and am currently an alum interviewer for my college.  Your daughter sounds like an excellent student, so I can understand your disappointment, but there's a lot more to admissions than GPA and SAT scores.  Before you play the race card, consider:

What were her recommendations like?  
How did she do in interviews?  
Did her essay add dimension to her profile as a strong student?   
Did she hold any leadership positions -- you mention that she played sports, but was she a team captain?  
Did she excel in any national STEM competitions?  
     [/quote]

First, there IS no disappointment on my or my husband's part. She got into a nice college and has continued to do great.. I didn't WANT a top school, don't care. But boy was she pressured by her peer group in this area! What shocked me was the absolute ridiculousness of the process.

Her teachers, frankly, were stunned. Look at the list you just put up above. Does that also apply towards minorities, or is it ok if they don't meet your (frankly) abusive criteria above.

What you are saying as a college recruiter/interviewer is that kids need to get almost perfect SAT scores, over-perform in academics, be team captains, win national competitions, and hold leadership positions?  These kids are TEENAGERS for Christ sakes!

Do you NOT see how absolutely absurd this is? My GOD if this is your criteria, you just proved my point as to how abusive and unrealistic college admissions has become. You are a major part of the problem.[/quote]

I feel you.  My white daughter needed some FA for most colleges and she was ousted from most of the schools she applied.  Top 10% in her top 5 private, top grades, ACT 34, won a state championship for a science event, team captain to two varsity for 2 years. Played one of those sports in club setting since she was 12. President of two major clubs and heavily involved.  Worked PT at an ice cream shop.  13 year Girl Scout and volunteered 2 weeks a summer at a Girl Scout camp.  She interned for 8 weeks and received a fabulous recommendation from that internship on top of 3 other recommendations.  Her college counselor said all were great.  She was literally at school, at a club meeting, playing a sport, volunteering, or working PT her entire 4 years of colleges. Any free time she was studying.  She barely had time to socialize.  She loved her school. She gave it her all.

She then watched so many minorities and full pay rich white kids below her academically at her school (some barely involved) get to PICK between top schools.  Her and three other obvious white FA kids got squat. One is potentially our valedictorian.  They are going to UMCP after being denied at all reached and targets. Accepted to UMCP and Penn State only, which were both safeties.  [b]We have one student who had to repeat a grade and is still on Calc AB as a senior, get into an Ivy.  It is very hard for these kids to swallow. [/b] They are taught to work hard and treat everyone equally and then they watch as colleges do not treat them fairly. But it is a hard, but important lesson to learn.  My nephew got bumped from many tech schools and watched as girls who had similar or lesser stats get in AND get merit aid. No different than white males having an easier time at SLAC's.  You have to find out which colleges need you or move to North Dakota. Stats and EC's are not enough.  Colleges play the number game.  [/quote]

Eh. No one should think that playing a sport or heading a club at school is going to get you anywhere. Was she recruited to play a sport in college? If not then that was just for fun - hope she enjoyed those years. And no one cares if she is heading a club, no.

There are tons of kids applying to Ivy’s with these kinds of stats and just not enough slots. She should have picked some different schools to apply to - sounds like some bad college advising.?

And your family sounds catty and self possessed - not great qualities. Why are you keeping track of a kid repeating a grade? And what’s wrong with being in Calc AB? [/quote]

Actually Ivy’s aren’t really looking for kids like yours, they are typically looking for some different qualities.[/quote]

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