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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This "top school" notion is BS. Do you honestly think that all of the successful people in the US went to only those schools? Or that everyone from those schools is successful? You are a part of the problem.[/quote] Regardless of whether a given school plays a role in eventual "success" is secondary. The primary issue is that these top schools are colluding and setting a quota (unwritten/unspoken) on Asian Americans' admissions and in the process discriminating against a minority racial group (that lacks any political clout) based on their race [b]which is clearly unlawful and unconstitutional. [/b][/quote] Well that's a legal conclusion I doubt you're qualified to make. And I predict the holistic admissions process will survive judicial scrutiny. [/quote] Discrimination by public colleges and private colleges receiving federal research/financial aid funds on the basis of race is not allowed under the current statutes and the Constitution unless you want to argue that Asians are not discriminated in the admissions process on the basis of race which would be laughable. [/quote] Every private college can select it's students however they want as long as they follow the law. Current law allows race as a factor. Harvard can define "merit" as they see fit. Their vision of merit does not heavily weight SAT scores (a good thing). Colleges can compare students from the same HS, which is probably a big disadvantage for TJ kids. They are not looking for "grinders" but for students who will become leaders and ambassadors in their field. Strong URM's can be particularly influential as role models for the future. [/quote] Are you saying TJ kids are "grinders" and not potential leaders or role models? Harvard may use race as one of the many factors but that is not what is currently happening. Harvard is using race as a determining factor. Harvard can try to game all they want and try to wiggle out of their discriminatory practices all they want but they are discriminating on the basis of race lot more than"oh the Asian kid and the Black kid both have roughly equal stats/accomplishments so let's go with the Black kid." There would not be an outcry if this was the case but sadly this is not the case. It's more like, the Asian kid has demonstrated more leadership potential, has better recommendation letters, better essays, higher gpa, higher sat score, received impressive awards and created a non-profit to help disadvantaged kids learn but let's go with a Black kid because we have to meet 15% incoming black students.[/quote] Actually, it's more like 'let's go with the white kid'.[/quote] Yep. It more like lets go with the connected, rich white kids that we see as a future leader, Like George Bush or Jared Kushner... In response to the post above,, you are correct Asian Stem kids from TJ are not seen as future leaders by many people or schools. Unfairly they are seen as future scientist, doctors, engineers and so on. They are not seen as future politicians, writers, and creative types. White kids and black kids are... obviously no one know what any kid is going to grow up and become. But all the TJ talking about Stem and SATs only makes it harder for the TJ kids to get recommendations that have the magic ingredient to get in from their schools, interviewers and the app readers. One thing I do know screaming about how you excel at the wrong criteria for a school or a job rarely gets you an offer.[/quote] You put up George Bush and Jared Kushner as a leader we should aspire to be? Seriously? Andrew Yang is leaps and bounds better than both Bush and/or Kushner and the candidate with the most innovative ideas to deal with problems faced by our country instead of just being concerned about getting reelected and receiving money from corporations/PAC.[/quote]
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