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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a pedestrian or cyclist MAKE EYE CONTACT before crossing.  [/quote]
This is what they teach you on bike school. Yes, the driver who kills you in a crosswalk would be liable. But so what?  [b]Posters here who’d rather be right and dead[/b]. ....[/quote]

Nobody has said that on this thread. In fact, nobody in my entire experience of discussions of transportation safety has ever said this. "The driver broke the law" is not a preference for being right and dead; it's a factual statement that [b]the driver broke the law.[/b][/quote]
On the other side says:  So what?  Your small child is dead and here’s what you could have done in this scenario to prevent the accident. 
A very hollow victory to strive to have the last word be “the driver broke the law.”  [/quote]

The last word for the driver would be "You killed a child." Would you be ok with that, if it were you? To go through the rest of your life knowing that you killed a child as a result of your own carelessness?[/quote]

A driver may be traumatized for life; but the trauma to the parent who could have prevented it by keeping the kid from crossing alone would obviously be much worse.  Does that really have to be stated?  [/quote]

Does it really have to be stated that the driver would be traumatized for life? Evidently, yes.[/quote]

Why all the debate?  Freaking make eye contact!  We have to take personal responsibility for our own actions too- even if the other person is breaking the law.  I rather take the time and make sure that my family crosses safely and live than be right.  [/quote]

I wish eye contact was that effective. I was walking home the other evening, pushing kid in a bob stroller. I stop at the curb as the driver pulled up to the stop sign on a small side street. I made eye contact, I waved-he most definitely saw me and acknowledged me-he was just a couple yards away, and then as I push the stroller into the street, he hits the gas! And his feelings were all hurt because I was screaming at him and not letting him go. As someone who is a pedestrian every day, it just isn't possible to be safe, because no matter how defensive I am/bright colors/lights on my stroller, drivers are just in their own bubble of not thinking this could be the day they kill someone and driving accordingly.[/quote]

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