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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Reading these comments. Politicians have been having affairs since the beginning of time. So don’t act like that’s a real reason to not vote for someone. See famously FDR, LBJ, Kennedy, Clinton, Trump. These trumped up book keeping charges are alarming and are true election interference.

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Good try but fail! It’s not just the sex with a porn star (only semi-consensual if that) while your wife is recovering from delivering your child. It’s the active lyimg to keep it out of the news, the falsifying of records so that it doesn’t show up as a business expense all to affect the outcome of an election. Trump’s own DOJ went after his fixer on these same charges. Are you saying Cohen should not have been charged? Why did Trump’s DOJ go after him then?[/quote]

Are you brain dead? Lying to keep something out if the news is the playbook of every living politician and celebrity past and present. The state of limitations had run out and you are telling me “falsifying records” is a felony? Only since this case, prior to Trump it was a misdemeanor.  This is disgustingly election interference at the judicial level.  Disgraceful. [/quote]
[b]True, but not every politician who tried to cover it up falsified business documents to make it look like it wasn't a pay off.[/b]

Trump's business dealings have always been murky.  Every NYer knew that even though he got away with it in the past.  But when you are POTUS, your every move is looked at with a fine tooth comb. He shouldn't have ever ran for POTUS. Way too much skeletons in his business closet.[/quote]

This kind of personal payment cannot be classified as a campaign expense under FEC rules as I understand it. But it seems that is what the prosecution said it should have been classified as. It was accompanied by an NDA, which is a legal agreement, so classifying it as a legal expense doesn't seem so off base to me. What should it have been classified as?

I work for a federal agency that not uncommonly gets rid of inconvenient employees through threats of trumped up misconduct charges or PIPs that an employee can get out of by signing a separation agreement in which they get several months salary in exchange for an NDA. Wondering now under what expense item they are classifying the separation sums. [/quote]
The NDA was null and void, as I understand it. Trump never signed it.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/07/591431710/stormy-daniels-files-suit-claims-nda-invalid-because-trump-didnt-sign-at-the-xxx

[quote]The suit alleges Trump "purposely did not sign the agreement so he could later, if need be, publicly disavow any knowledge of the 'Hush Agreement' " or the affair. 
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Falsifying records itself is not a felony, but the issue was he did it to impact an election. Those two together is what the charges were about.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/a-guide-to-the-criminal-cases-against-donald-trump/

[quote]In New York, falsifying business records counts as a felony, rather than a misdemeanor, only if the defendant had an intent of committing or concealing a separate underlying crime[/quote]

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So, if he had signed the NDA it could be classified as a legal expense? Also, wasn't the actual payment made in 2017 after the election? If, how was there intent to impact the election?[/quote]

he wire transfer to Daniels lawyer was in October of 2016.[/quote]
Yes it was during the last weeks of the 2016 campaign.

His lawyers stated in the trial that he never had sex with her, and that the money to Cohen was for legal fees.  The jury decided that this was a lie, that he did have sex with her, and that the money was to hush her up because it would impact his campaign; and then he proceeded to falsify Trump Org business documents to conceal what the payments were for.

Under NY state law, falsifying documents to cover up an underlying crime us considered a low level felony.  It's basically like a RICO case where gangs and mobs falsify business documents to conceal their ill gotten gains.[/quote]
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