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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The delay in summoning help and cutting the child off from maternal family are also pretty damning imo. [/quote]

How are we certain that he cut the kid off from grandparents again? Not saying it’s not true, just don’t remember how this came up.[/quote]

I don’t know them personally but I can tell you this…. The mother and sister of CB and the former au Pair who was very close with CB used to be on social media connected to BBs mother. Remember, the families are from the same area. Then, at one point they all “unfriended” BBs mother. Something happened. [/quote]

Anyone have a sense of the timing of that?

In deleted posts on another site someone said that there was coldness between CB's family and BB at funeral. Her dad is LE and her mom, too, no?

I can't imagine what this is like for them and Joe's family and friends as AP's lawyer smears both in death and BB smirks at it all with duper's delight.

BB and CB met as teens and their families had known one another for decades.

The CB text is poignant to me, BB seems very cold as a baseline and was having an affair in the marital home. She may have lost weight as part of this birthday gift scene and I bet she was lonely. BB's was off at the gym with chubby AP with the rack. The poor child was living in a crazy environment even before losing her mom and 1/2 her extended family. I hope karma comes for BB. None of this would have happened without his machinations. Not death, not Fe&life, none of it. [/quote]

We don’t know that CB even sent that message. Yes, she sent a pic to her husband but we don’t know who was communicating with JR. Given law enforcement statements early on that they believed someone else set up the account I’m hoping that the chats through the site clearly show that the person posing as CB was not a native English speaker [/quote]

Then who was talking (using their voice) to JR?[/quote]

This is a key question. This case is messy. I need the silver haired fox Keith Morrison to parse the details. [/quote]

Even if it was CB, the idea of the scene with JR may have originated with BB, usually it is the DH pushing the c*ck kink. JR may have raised knife idea from something BB had said. JR's friend said he had met with a couple. What transpired there may not ever be known. BB has a murder plot in mind and was orchestrating the elements. A knife brought by JR with his fingerprints on it was key. JR was not into knife play and said he had never done it. So, more likely BB implied that was desired than that it suddenly spontaneously happened. [/quote]

Joe literally told people where he was going that week. He was very openly engaged on that website. I do not think he was going there to purposely kill someone.  Something went terribly wrong. Whether it was CB or BB that initiated the meet up, I do not believe JR went there with the intent to kill. [/quote]

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