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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]CNN headline that he Alex Pretti had a physical confrontation/altercation with ICE officers the week prior to shooting and broke a rib.  It’s behind a paywall. [/quote]

The interview with his colleagues somewhat disturbing. And his father's speech admitting that he warned him not to confront LEO. Why would the parent be warning their kid who is going to the peaceful protest? My children engaged into numerous protests and it never crossed my mind to warn them about not confronting LEO, even thought they are just high schoolers. [/quote]

The earlier incident started when he stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.

Pretti later told the source that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back – an encounter that left him with a broken rib. The agents quickly released him at the scene.

Now, here's some education about protests:

There was a protest in my town just after the Floyd murder. I live 8 blocks from the area in my town where it was occurring. My son called and told me to stay away as they were using tear gas. His business is close to the periphery of where the protests were going, and he stayed there all night in case he needed to board up windows; tear gas from 5 blocks away reached his location. I did stay away, just walked a few blocks from my house to where I could hear the bangs and other noise. Both he and I supported the protests.

The Minneapolis judge who initially barred the feds from using tear gas examined the legal requirements for a TRO (not sure if it was an injunction vs TRO-- I'm not clear as to the legal distinctions). Regarding the first amendment, the government tried to argue that the fact that people who had signed declarations said they planned to continue observing--which was primarily was Pretti was doing--meant their 1st amendment rights were not being curtailed. But the judge wrote that the test of chilling effects on 1st amendment rights is not whether an individual is determined to continue to exercise them, it is whether a person of "ordinary firmness" would be reluctant to do so. All the calls from the right to stay away and stay home (hard to do when your entire city is a potential site of ICE action and you can find yourself in the middle just going about your day--like the 17 year old working at Target or the family tear gassed in their car coming home from baseball practice) simply underline the judge's statements--that the very fact that "common sense" would dictate people to stay away is evidence of the government violating free speech rights.

So sure, you can maybe avoid persecution from the govt by staying home. This is true for the people in Iran and for people in the United States. But who is the perp now?

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Guys, if we just would have stayed home and let the British do what they want we wouldn’t be dealing with these maga pedos and Russian bots.

Maybe they have a point.[/quote]

So, you're saying these people are like Tories and Benedict Arnolds?[/quote]

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