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Wow these videos. I know looks can be deceiving but it just looks...so intentional. How do you not notice a jet flying at you. Do Blackhawks not have windows on the side? Are there blind spots? [/quote]

Plexiglass bubble, and they were way above the tree line so no excuse not to see or look slightly left at a plane lining up for runway 33.
Plus the fact that ATC told them the facts twice. [/quote]

At night it can be hard to tell if a stationary light in the sky is a light on the ground, or a light from a plane traveling directly at you. I help my dad spot traffic in his plane whenever I see him, and have since I was a teen, and night flying can be tricky because of that even in clear conditions.[/quote]

This explanation is very unsettling to those of us who are not pilots and do not work in aviation.

"It's hard to see things that are right in front of you while flying at night" is never going to satisfy anyone for an explanation for this crash.[/quote]

Sounds like you need to get to work STAT on some conspiracy theories and rumors!! 
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Nope. I have not engaged in any conspiracy theories or rumors. I am simply telling you that no one is every going to accept the explanation that, well, it's just very hard to see when flying at night as an acceptable explanation for why 64 civilians and 3 military personnel lost their lives here. I don't want a wild conspiracy theory to explain it, I want an explanation that makes sense. "Oops well doing this thing that planes and airplanes do all the effing time is hard" does not makes sense.[/quote]

I accept it. If you are going to judge a nation professionals, then you need to understand the situations they are in.

The pilots were beam to beak at one point and it’s hard to discern aircraft lights from surrounding city lights. Perhaps aircraft lights need to be a certain color that will stand out at night and not be used by cities.

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No one is disputing that it might have been hard for the helicopter pilots to see the plane. That is accepted.

The point is that this is not a sufficient explanation for the accident. It is a part of the picture but those of you who just keep repeating "it was hard for them to see the plane under those conditions" aren't getting that this is not enough. Why wasn't radar consulted? Why didn't they see the plane once they were no longer nose-to-nose? Why didn't ATC calling out a second time to see if they had visual separation raise an alarm for them to possibly confirm that they were looking at the right aircraft? Why didn't they confirm location of the plane they were looking at when ATC called back in order to ensure they were referring to the same plane?

And even beyond the visual separation issue: Why did the helicopter rise to 350 feet in violation of the flight plane? Why did they bank west toward the airport at the worst possible moment regardless of where other planes were (directly in front of National's runways for incoming traffic)?

Responding to these questions by saying "well you see, it is very hard to see a plane that is right in front of you when flying at night" is not going to make people stop asking these questions. Noted. Now explain all the other stuff.[/quote]

This post asks so many needed and important questions.
Something about this awful situation and the information the public is being allowed is just not adding up. Things are not completely making sense. There must be more to it all.[/quote]

IT'S A HUGE CONSPIRACY!!!

ARMCHAIR DETECTIVES TO THE RESCUE!! 
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Good job bringing the temperature down and speaking sense.
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