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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]So the God you serve is weak? If your God is what you say he is surely he does not need you to write the laws for him to make sure others do as he says. Right? [/quote]

This is starting to depart from the Political forum to the Religious but they are intertwined so hopefully we won't get "The Warning Finger of Doom" by the dreaded  JSteele.

God is not weak.  Humans are given free will to live as they choose.

[i]Choose life so that you and your descendants may live, loving the Lord your God, obeying him, and holding fast to him; for that means life to you and length of days... --Deuteronomy 30:19[/i]

We get to choose the laws we uphold or discard.   God gives us that choice.   We are not robots. God has give us the laws and set them plainly before us.  It is up to us to decide to obey or not, and
our decision will result in good or bad consequences.  [/quote]

Lol you so classic! You don't want to mix politics and religion when you have to answer tough questions..[/quote]   All I was saying is, the thread was becoming more religious than political and could have been considered off topic, but I was not trying to avoid your question just remain within the rules of the moderator

[i]You say you God writes the rules and is in control.[/i]  ---Yes, God is in control but allows us to choose whether to obey or not.

[i]You say  people have a choice in if they want to follow God's rules for their lies or not, so why then are you through your vote trying to force others to follow God's rules instead of following the rules for your life ?[/i]

I do follow the rules for my life and obey the commandments of God.  However, when those around me do not obey then I have to witness and receive collateral damage from their wickedness such as an impaired economy, seeing miserable single mothers or women emotionally messed up from killing their unborn children, or other things.  If I can, through the human govt. have them enact laws that mirror as close as possible God's laws, I can force those people. albeit unwillingly, to obey God to some degree.  It makes my surroundings better, and it is compassionate for those other people who do not understand it is in their best interest to obey God.

[i]Saying you need to vote xyz for your beliefs for your God makes it seem like you think your God week and unable to see that his rules are followed.
It makes it seem as though you don't trust your God to take care of things.
It makes it seem as you are weak yourself, if you need all laws in your favor in order to follow your God and your religion[/i]

Nope, God is totally in charge and has everything taken care of.  Every possible move every molecule on the planet can move is known by God and the end result of God's intentions for mankind will take all of these possible moves into account.  The final result will be all of mankind will obey God one or way another, either willingly or unwillingly through a government.

I have to live with the consequences of my choices, and I have to live with the consequences of other people's choices which can impact me.  I do not live in a bubble separated from everyone. So, me voting is to try and elect people who will uphold righteousness is the right thing to do.    I have to live on this planet and so I am going to associate with and elect leaders who [b]will, to me, make my short stay here as good as possible. [/b]

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That's what it comes down to you follow the Gospel of Ease. You are willing to stand up for Your God & Your Beliefs as long as it's easy. As long ass you can try to force others  to do the same.  You'll follow as long as it's easy. 
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So, I should vote for Clinton to make my life deplorable, I mean really deplorable?  Such as making it harder for me to get ammo for my guns to defend my home against crackhead thieves?  That I have to see many people endure economic hardship because the safety net we built for the less fortunate of our country has become a hammock for illegal aliens to take a snooze in?   That I should vote for a person who will elect people who will scream at me because I teach my children gay marriage is wrong and that if I try to withdraw my children from participating in homo-erotic propaganda in the school then I am a bigot and ought to be shunned and my church shut down and its tax exempt status revoked?   I should vote for Clinton so as to make my life harder?

That is sadism and I am not a sadist.   The Gospel is this:  Jesus Christ is the son of God. Whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.   That is the gospel.   Voting for a corrupt Jezebel of a woman who would make my life a living hell is not in the Gospel anywhere.

With Trump in power there is a good possibility I will have even more money to contribute to charity, to give to widows, to help the downtrodden directly (not through a corrupt Clinton organization) and so forth.   Voting Trump was the right choice.

You are grasping at straws to somehow make my vote un-Christian.  You are reaching real far, scraping the bottom of the barrel.   I think you need to take a rest and think about sunshine and daisies before you blow a gasket.

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