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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).       [/quote]

What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing.  Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really?  We didn't take your slot, white kids did.  If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem.  If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.[/quote]

2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black..  California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom. [/quote]

For top national universities such as Berkeley and UCLA, national demographics should be used not regional. Nationally, blacks make up about 12% of the population. Incoming black student population for Berkeley was 2.8% for 2015 and the total black student population for UCLA is 4.0% which are very small compared to 10 to 12 percent for other top schools. This is with unofficial Institutional Affirmative Action at UCs despite the ban in place.  [/quote]

NP-No, you should use state demographics to compare state school enrollment.  State schools give state residents preference in admissions; Cal and UCLA are no exception.  The prior PP is correct, California's two flagship universities' Black population is aligned with the state's Black population.  [/quote]

Berkeley's 2015 incoming black students: 2.8%
Stanford's 2015 incoming black students: 7.8%

Both schools are located in California and both use holistic admissions program so what makes Stanford's black student number significantly higher (almost 3 times) than Berkeley number even though both are in California and Stanford is supposedly more selective school (the most selective in the country)? Berkeley is even cheaper for black students who are California residents. Shouldn't Berkeley's numbers be higher for blacks?

You guessed it. Affirmative Action program at Stanford where race preference is significant.  [/quote]

No dummy.  You didn't say how many were accepted.  If I am a top black student, why would I go to Berkeley over Stanford?  With Stanford's financial aid, the price would be the same or cheaper.[/quote]

You dummy if that (yield rate) is the only thing at play than we should expect the same for Asian Americans; higher % at Stanford (more prestige, supposedly more aid etc.) so let's see what the Asian student populations are:

Stanford: about 20%
Berkeley about 40%

Hmm... why are there substantially more Asians at Berkeley than Stanford if Stanford is more prestigious and supposedly gives more aid (even if it is significantly more expensive)? Wonder what is going on here? Whay are Asian numbers reversed compared to Blacks?[/quote]

I don't know why Asian students prefer Berkeley, but that's Asian students.  I can guarantee the black students would choose Stanford.  Stanford is going to give a huge amount of money.  What is wrong with you?  You have 40% at Berkeley.  Are you mad it isn't 100%?  What is your beef?  [/quote]

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