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OK. You seem earnest. I'll give you an earnest answer.

The poster who decided I really mean "Muslim men philanthropists and scientists and their wives who are wholly separate from the men" when I clearly meant "the community of Muslims and its members who happen to be female" is really, really determined to find misogyny.  It's not worth my time to argue with her because she's totally convinced she knows what I meant. What that comment "really" meant was that the public perception of hijabs is driven by the perception of the Muslims en masse and not by the act of covering.  If the Muslim community "in general" was famous for great things, its female members would enjoy [b]admiration and respect whatever they wear, [/b]and if their clothing readily identifies them as members of that community, then readily so. Right now, the Muslim community doesn't have a great reputation.  So its female members identifiable by their clothes fully share the burden of that not-so-great reputation of the community to which they belong.

As for the prophet and "better theories", I don't really know understand what your question is.
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I'm not the poster you've been arguing with about Muslims and their wives, but I too disagree with you. First, women of other races with successful reputations don't get a break. Look at Asian wives--here they get criticized for being too passive or for being tiger moms, both things that are seen as contrary to mass American values.

Second, and much more important: the veil itself would draw criticism regardless of the perception of Muslims and Islam overall. There's no getting around the fact that it represents the woman's responsibility for men's sexual arousal. (It's not clear you knew that, but it's indisputable, and appearing to support that is why you got called a misogynist.) I can't imagine most Westerners would ever accept that, even with a massive improvement in the perception of Muslims in general.[/quote]

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