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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jefferson Davis was not a Virginian, so [b]why should Virginia celebrate him[/b] at all? If a French nationalist waged armed war against the rest of Europe in the name of white supremacy and it resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands (basically what Jefferson Davis did versus the US) then I absolutely would call him a traitor and liken him to Hitler.[/quote] Perhaps because Richmond was one of the capitols of the Confederate States of America and Davis was the President? You know, kind of like D.C. celebrating it's past presidents.[/quote] A defunct enemy country that only existed for a very bad cause for a brief but brutal 4 years and which has now been gone for 150 years. Should we put up a monument honoring Al Baghdadi, leader of ISIS? They are an enemy state as well.[/quote] Is Al Baghdadi the president of the CSA? Is the capitol of ISIS in Virginia?[/quote] Regardless of who he is president of or where his capitol is, WHY DO WE HONOR ENEMIES? Has it still not sunk in to you that the CSA was an ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES?[/quote] What you don't seem to get is he has NEVER been an enemy of Virgina or any of the states part of the CSA. Learn your history![/quote] I have read my history and it says the CSA was an enemy of the United States, it says the CSA crumbled and died 150 years ago and for 150 years Virginia has been part of the United States. You still seem to think the CSA is alive and well and refuse to accept history.[/quote] You still haven't given any historical time frame when Davis was an enemy of Virgina. Is that perhaps because he never was?[/quote] I said he was an enemy of the [i]United States[/i]. Up to you and your delusions as to whether you consider Virginia to currently be part of the United States or not, but the history books all uniformly agree that it is in fact now a part of the United States, none of them seem to mention anything about the Confederates winning the battle or Virginia taking over or anything else that would magically flip the scenario to make him no longer an enemy of the United States.[/quote] I agree they were an enemy of the US. But that isn't what I asked, I asked when was Davis an enemy of Virginia. What you seem to be forgetting this is a Virginia issue, not a United States issue. The US could care less what name a state gives to a state highway. All the US cares about is the numbering system for US highways. Learn more here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_Highways[/quote] I don't think anyone caress about your question. All Virginians (except for immigrants) are Americans. He may not have betrayed the Commonwealth, but he betrayed the country we all pledge allegiance to. [/quote] Bingo. But I would qualify that with "he may not have betrayed the white people sympathetic to the Confederacy in the Commonwealth of Virginia within the context of pre-1865 times" but ever since then, with the Union coming back together, it represents a betrayal to all. A PP has pointed out that black slaves in Virginia certainly were betrayed by and not represented by Davis, but I'd also point out that there is historical evidence that not all free white Virginians were necessarily sympathetic to Davis and the Confederacy, either.[/quote]
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