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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Regardless the outcome, private colleges like Harvard, Princeton, etc, will continue holistic admissions.  Good for them.[/quote]

Private universities may be affected and (bound) by the US Supreme Court ruling since they receive federal funds from the Federal Government unless they give up all federal funds.  [/quote]

I think it's time to end this racial discrimination based on race. This is shameful and unconstitutional to allow racial discrimination to continue. All citizens are guaranteed equal protection under the law.[/quote]

So what do we do about the fact that with few exceptions the standards for admissions for a white male and lower than they are for a white female. The rationale is that colleges prefer gender parity for a variety of reasons. But is that fair to girls? I think it's time to end discrimination based on gender. It is shameful. All citizens are guaranteed equal protections under the law. And please don't ask me to cite sources. Look it up yourself. [/quote]

Depends on the criteria used.  Grades?  Yes.  SAT scores?  No.  In any case, the differences are slight compared to racial preferences.[/quote]

No, girls and Asians (boys and girls) have both higher grades and SAT scores than white boys in general. Why do white boys get a pass? If a meritocracy is so damned important to people then they shouldn't be so quick to drop it when it comes to white boys. This is anecdotal but several boys in my daughter's classes at a SLAC have come right out and said if they were a girl they would have never be admitted. Tell a girl who had been weeded out based on gender that the differences are slight. Time for lazy white boys to face the music.[/quote]

Not true.  White males have higher SAT scores than white females by about 40 points.  There are almost twice as many males with SAT math scores above 700, and slightly more with Reading scores above 700.  Females have higher grades.  All the details are here:

http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/research/2013/TotalGroup-2013.pdf[/quote]

You need to look at scores based on individual colleges and universities. Looking at the "total group" is an odd way to look at admission odds for a particular institution. Look at the common data set for a specific college (under institutional research on the college/university website) and you'll see a different story. At most schools [b]admitted[/b] girls have higher scores than [b]admitted[/b] boys. Not all, but most.[/quote]

I believe this.  When my son was getting ready for apps, a friend with a son told me that my son would get into a great school - he's not competing against the girls, just the other boys.  According to my college counselor, girls scores are higher.  Boys are given more breaks.  We must demand that this STOPS NOW![/quote]

unless it is caltech, mit, cmu cs, stanford or any other stem rockstar school.[/quote]

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