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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]How many times do I have to say ALL???  I'm debating you because you seem to lack the concept that individuals and religions are separate entities.  As I said, if you want to debate the political acceptance of a religions, start a thread with that topic.  Do you or do you not politically support Religion XYZ?  That is the question.  Not do you support candidate ABC who may support parts of Religion XYZ.  You want to pick and choose parts of a Religion like it's an individual.  You can't do that, you have to consider the entirety of the Religion.  Which you seem incapable of doing.

[b]Do you support Islam and all that it stands for?[/b]  If the answer is no, then your calling yourself a bigot along with everyone else.[/quote]

Actually, this thread is about Ben Carson saying that a Muslim shouldn't be President. It actually seems like you who need to go start your own thread. Your responses confuse me because you seem to be vehemently arguing that I am wrong, but then make exactly the same argument that I am making. So, let's make this simple. The US Constitution states that there should be no religious test for holding public office. Do support that clause of the US Constitution?

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So no answer to the question in bold?[/quote]

Oh sorry, I don't understand the question. There is no "official" Islam that one can support or oppose. I am not a Muslim and don't practice Islam. To me, Islam is no different than any other religion. They are all interesting to study and all of them have practitioners with whom I agree and with whom I don't.
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Dodge all you want.  But I'll answer for you since you won't.

You support [b]your[/b] personal views.  Your personal views include some religious beliefs but not the entirety of any particular religion.  Even if you did totally disagree with a particular religion, say: Satanism, Scientology or Nazism, you would still consider their members as potentially worthy presidential candidates.  Anyone who does not support such religions and does not consider their members worthy presidential candidates are bigots.[/quote]

Can you clarify for me whether Satanists, Scientologists, or Nazis have a wide spectrum of differing beliefs that mean that is it impossible to paint them all with the same brush? I am probably not as well informed as you about those groups, but I thought that their members pretty much agreed upon on everything. In contrast, Islam comes in so many different forms that the different factions are often at war with each other.

Also, since I answered your question, can you please answer mine about whether or not you support the prohibition  in the US Constitutional on religious tests for holding public office?

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I believe anyone should be able to run for president regardless of their religious associations.  I also believe everyone has the right to disqualify someone based on their religious beliefs.  That is where you and I disagree and where you show your own form of bigotry.

And yes, I believe the US Constitution not requiring a religious test is a good thing.  It protects those who are religiously affiliated, those who are not, and those who denounce certain religions.  You seem to be advocating it should not.[/quote]

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