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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18:11- Stop making sense.  You are ruining the PPs desire to deport the "illegals" when many, many ESOL students are actually U.S. citizens.  I teach ESOL students and if we are going to deport anyone, let's start with everyone on welfare.  There are plenty of native born people who don't work because they'd rather just get handouts from the gov't.  None of the parents of my ESOL students sit collecting free handouts around instead of working.[/quote]

People are on welfare because illegals took their jobs working for less money so the rich get richer. And many many illegals are on government assistance. Don't be fooled. [/quote]

Nope.  There is no way these families would work the types of jobs these parents have.  Cleaning, construction, landscaping, etc.  No way.  Why work your fingers to the bone for minimum wage when you can collect welfare?[/quote]

I disagree and this is such a stereotype of many liberals.

Not the PP but we who worked these jobs before?  I remember moms and teens working retail. The entire malls were teen/college workers on weekends and nights.  Teens also did  bussing services and hostess.  Working McDonalds too.  I think everyone in my high school worked in a fast food restaurant at one point.  My BIL's had to close his landscaping/concrete business in 2003 because he paid legal american workers and no one wanted his fees.  People rather hire illegal workers for cheaper to do their lawns and patios. That is where 90% of the legally owned landscaping businesses went. In my schools in the 70/80's the janitors were caucasian or african american and spoke English.  And cleaning ladies were moms.  It was their supplemental income for when they stayed at home.  Oh and we own a construction type company.  We won't/don't hire illegals because we do government jobs and need e-verify and security ability on everyone to enter government restricted areas.  PLENTY of people line up for openings when we need more employees for the jobs.  PLENTY.  So I don't buy the crap that they "had" to come to the US because of all these jobs no one wanted. SOMEONE had them before they did, but they do jobs for pennies so CEO's and company owners can put more money in their back pockets. They were hired, legals were fired. CEO's took it to the bank.

As far as those on welfare, you do realize if they deported and gave welfare recipients 6 months sliding scale to get one of the many jobs now available before they lost welfare, it would save this country billions of dollars.  But the government (Democratics especially) want welfare recipients.  The more people depending on the government the better.  If it means our taxes goes to paying them and also paying for illegal immigrants ESL/FARMS/Food Stamps so be it.  The only person on the losing end is the middle class and our public education system.  At the rate illegal immigrants are entering our county, most schools but certain areas of Potomac/Chevy Chase will be 50% FARMS/ESOL and like many other posters have mentioned it is a major issue at their school.  So yes, I am concerned.  I think just turning a blind eye is killing our schools.  Immigration reform and securing the borders is a political game to play against each party.  As long as we are all okay with having our taxes go towards it, nothing will be done and MCPS schools will continue to spiral down as they have the last 10-15yrs.  Just like the middle class shrinking, the middle kids are getting less and less.  It is either IB or ESL in our schools and the average kids are paying for it everyday.   It does not work.  You can put more and more money into it but it won't change.  People like to think it will but it won't.  [/quote]

This is correct. Don't you remember the posts from the summer abt kids who couldn't find jobs in retail? And the ONLY people I know who pay all taxes for household help are government workers or political wannabes, not the vast majority of household help employers.[/quote]

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