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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, I know you are not arguing that a ghost or a fairy created all of this? :)  You're right that we can go around and around. Here's the thing we cannot prove to an atheists the existence of Allah (God). In fact we cannot prove the existence of God to anyone. We can at most find evidence to support our claims, but in the end it comes to "belief".[/quote]

Why on Earth not? My point was that your presupposition of god or gods is completely arbitrary. People believe in God. People believe in fairies. We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. It's quite likely there's no such thing as "before". But your premise was that something had to create the Big Bang. You define that as "God", and then you go on to assign all sorts of attributes to this "God". But that doesn't follow. Rather than labeling this pre- Big Bang phenomenon "God" let's just call it "X" (or The Fairy, or The Flying Spaghetti Monster, or what have you).

Do you realize that adding just one new level of complexity to the system doesn't get you anywhere?[/quote]

That's why I said, in the end it comes down to belief because we can not prove His Existence[/quote]

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