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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone who doubts that there is an anti-Semitic undercurrent in some (not all!) anti-circ sentiment might take a look at following (appalling) links. I am not Jewish myself, nor am I saying that being anti-circ makes you anti-Semitic. I *am* saying that those who detect a strain of anti-semitism in some of this debate are not making things up:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/foreskin-man-comic-latest-anti-circumcision-groups-push/storynew?id=14045258#.Udb-_jnRmfQ

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/01/anti-semitism-and-germanys-movement-against-circumcision/266794/
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This must be one of the worst articles I have read in the Atlantic. There is no convincing case for the German stance against circumcision being motivated by anti-Semitism, and the author (who isn't even religious but actually says he wants his son to look like him) is only voicing his paranoid feelings. If anything, there may be an element of anti-Muslim sentiment in the German efforts to outlaw circumcision. Aside from a few fringe groups (which also exist in most other countries), Germany today is the least anti-Semitic country in the world.[/quote]

WTF? there are no/very few Jews in Germany because of the Holocaust. That brings anti-Semite to a new level. [/quote]

I don't think you understood what I said. No one denied that the Shoah wiped out the great Jewish culture Germany had. What I was saying is that today, in the post-war generation, every child is taught early on that anti-Semitism is evil. Every child grows up knowing about the Shoah, that Germany carries great guilt, and that anti-Semitism cannot be tolerated. I have encountered shocking (to me, because I'm pretty sensitive) instances of anti-Semitism (in the form of jokes or prejudice) in this country and in other European countries, but never in Germany (obviously, I never hung out with neo-nazis). The reason may partly be that Germans don't encounter a lot of Jews anymore, but it is also evident that the way post-war generations were raised, with much more awareness than people in countries who don't have such a horrific history, has really made anti-Semitism taboo. Therefore, I don't believe anti-Semitism is at the root of court decisions to outlaw circumcision, and the author of the article does not offer a single piece of evidence to support his suspicion.

Now anti-Muslim sentiment is another story. I believe there is a lot of that going on among conservatives, just like in this country. They will justify it with the threat of terrorism, and the self-segregation of Muslim communities, and the oppression of women. But this suspicion against Islam is an international, not a specifically German problem.[/quote]

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