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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the talk of less enjoyment misses the fact that when you are overweight and feel like crap about yourself, you're not enjoying life either. "Ozempic personality"seems like a gross clickbait term to yet again stigmatize people around weight, as if now congrats, society won't judge you for being fat anymore, but your personality sure does suck! [/quote] One reason why glps work to stop overeating is because it diminishes the so called "food noise." This noise is also at work when you want to drink alcohol, have sex, basically the noise is a motivator of desire and enjoyment. Glps quiet the noise, resulting in anhedonia in many people. Anhedonia can lead to depression. At least you're thin.[/quote] Oh good grief! None of this is true whatsoever. Food noise has nothing to do with libido or ability to enjoy things in life, and you're obviously just trolling. Many obese people are constantly hungry, are constantly depriving themselves and on diets, are working out a lot, and then have to deal with feeling like failures when the scale doesn't budge. We have to feel like pathetic slobs all of the time, even though we're often working twice as hard as the rest of you. Then, if we push ourselves much at the gym or hiking or whatever, we get sore knees or have other significant pain. If we try to do something fun, we have to worry about the knees crapping out mid hike or whatever. Many hobbies are less fun due to the extra weight. Being obese really sucks. Going from being obese to being a normal weight improves one's quality of life tremendously. Reducing food noise is just that and nothing more. Slowing the emptying of the stomach makes you feel more sated and less hungry. It is not mood altering. Sheesh. [/quote] Some of you show your ignorance. It would be good for you to learn more about receptor activity. [/quote] Nonetheless, many people here are on GLPs and are perfectly happy with no mood issues whatsoever. Meanwhile, on this thread, the suggestion was given to regiment one's life much more, add 1+ hours of exercise per day and cut calories even more for a person who was already exercising plenty and eating only 1400 calories. Maybe you should be more worried about mental wellbeing of those who need to go to extreme lengths just to reach a healthy weight. [/quote] and taking glps isn't extreme?![/quote] NP-It's one shot a week, tapering down over time to a very low dose. That's a lot less extreme than 3 hours of exercise a day (yes, someone recommended that) and massive calorie restriction. It's also a lot less extreme than all the meds one inevitably ends up having to take if staying obese for decades.[/quote] Every discussion I've read on here about it revolves around *increasing the amount. Any talk of tapering is from the vanity microdosers. Most discuss it being a lifelong drug like insulin or high blood pressure medicine. None of ya'll wants to find out what happens when you stop. And no one wants to discuss the, as yet unidentified, long term impacts or the weird short term impacts such as side effects and improper emptying of the stomach and bowels. How are you going to fast/clear out for surgery or colonoscopy?[/quote] This forum is a pretty poor source for information. Increasing the amount is called for when the weight loss halts or the hunger isn't well managed. If you're losing at an acceptable rate, you don't increase. After you reach your goal weight and are in maintenance, you should decrease by quite a bit. Also, the doctors know how to handle dealing with emptying the bowels before surgery or colonoscopy. That's really not a concern. FWIW, I tried calorie restriction and exercise for the last 3 or so years, but the weight kept creeping up. I tried IF. Still gained weight. I completely gave up alcohol (down from maybe 7 drinks per week). Still gained. 2 months into a GLP, and still on a "ramp up" dose, and I've already lost 10 lbs. I feel great, and my doctor is keeping me on the 0.5 mg dose since it's working. Maybe there are long term impacts that should concern me, but there are also pretty alarming long term impacts to being obese and prediabetic. [/quote]
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