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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think that charter schools are a bad thing! I'm not sure that they get the credit for the "sea change" in DC education, though. Charter schools didn't even arrive in DC until 1997, long after gentrification started. The hot new charters are only a few years old, though, and the oldest are only 8 or 10 years.

And the push for charter schools, I'm sure you recall, came from Newt Gingrich and the other Republicans in Congress, and many of us here in the city feared that they would be a death blow to DCPS. I think we're all watching to see how that will play out.

I don't really understand your point, by the way. I think you are conflating a bunch of PP comments into the idea that somehow people don't like charter schools.[b] It's  foolish, though, to assume that all kids are getting a better education because of their existence. We're just creating a parallel school system of a few relatively high performing charters and elementary schools that are still inaccessible to most DC families[/b].[/quote]

Nowhere do I or any other PPs say "all kids are getting a better education".  Of course that would be ridiculous, because there are charter schools that are not doing well and there are still plenty of failing DCPS schools.  No one said ALL kids, not here, not anywhere that I've seen on DCUM.  So you can move on from that part of your argument.

Re: your bolded statement, are you saying that the kids now in charters that are performing well or excellently would be doing just as well in DCPS?  How can you get around the fact that with the #s of students enrolled in Tier 1 and Tier 2 charters, THEY are getting a better education than their neighborhood schools?  And yes, the PP who keeps talking about how charters have led to disinvestment of parents in their neighborhood DCPS schools, as if somehow that would have happened if not for charters, has talked about the negative effect of charters.  So yes, someone has said they're bad, even if they're still trying to get their kids in because it's the only "rickety lifeboat" they have.

So, again, the question still remains for those who damn the existence of charters (and yes, that is exactly the bottom line of PPs), what should have/could have happened at the time the charter movement really got going, that would have served the numbers of underserved kids who are now getting a better education at charter schools?  Do you know how many low income kids are enrolled in adequately-to-well performing charters now?  If you damn charters, you are saying that either it doesn't matter that a signficant number of underserved kids are better off or that the generations of those kids who would have had crappy outcomes was worth sacrificing in order for ___________ to happen instead.  (____________ being whatever it is you think would have happened to actually improve DCPS, and we're all still waiting on what that is).[/quote]

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