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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Who is supposed to clean after the stay (laundry, dishes, tidying) and pay for the utilities? I cannot imagine traveling out of town to clean a vacation home after someone stayed there for free. If you rent it out, sure, then those things are already taken care of and you could offer a subsidized rate.[/quote]

It’s not just the cleaning, it’s using up supplies like paper towels, tp and bottled water without replacing them, or using pantry items and eating snacks, it’s leaving dirty towels and bed linens or even clean linens but expecting the owner to remake the beds, it’s keeping the A/C at 68 or the heat at 72 because the borrower doesn’t get the bill, it’s leaving the pool heater on for a week straight because again, they don’t get the bill . . . [/quote]

We have a second home that we are generous with with family and friends and literally every single thing that you have just described has happened (except the heated pool; our pool isn't heated) and guess what?  WE DON'T CARE.  In fact, we typically tell folks not to wash the towels and sheets and just do it ourselves.  Why?  BECAUSE THEY ARE FAMILY AND WE'RE NICE.[/quote]

The other solution is to just rent second homes and avoid this whole situation entirely. There are so many awesome home rentals now.  Who needs to clean up after entitled family members? [/quote]

Some of us have family and friends we like and we can afford to host and entertain without worry about “cleaning up” or affording the maintenance that we would be paying anyway.[/quote]

That's exactly right.  We don't ALL come from dysfunctional families.

We very much enjoy opening our second home to family and friends.  It's not a big deal to throw a few towels and sheets in the wash afterwards, have our nice cleaning lady come in, or have Amazon deliver bulk supplies of paper towels and toilet paper.

And you wanna hear something that will REALLY blow your mind?  We're DOG FRIENDLY!  We don't care at all!![/quote]

Let me ask you this - do you feel superior to people who have friends or family that ask to use their guest house when those people know there will be issues? In other words, you're clearly proud of how accommodating you are. Do you think that people who would say no because of valid issues are somehow below you? If all your friends and family are so amazing that they've never destroyed something or caused issues, that's great. If you're so wealthy that you don't mind footing the bill for the cleaner but also for whatever other issues might arise, that's great. If you love dogs so much that you don't mind if they pee on your rugs, that's great. But do you think that makes you a better person than someone who has concerns about sharing their property based on the people they know who want to use it? Or you do think the fact that you don't have any dysfunctional friends or relative makes you superior to those who have to deal with those things?[/quote]

Well, since you asked, yes, I feel superior to those kinds of people.  But who are these people you are associating with who "destroy" things?   I mean, wow.   [/quote]

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