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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The "apology" is terrible, just awful. Not a single word recognizing the impact of his actions. Just more plugging of his own project.

I am far less sympathetic after this statement than I was before it, to be honest. How hard would it be to acknowledge harm, if you are writing a statement anyway?

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/i-swear-john-davidson-deeply-mortified-shouting-n-word-baftas-1236670082/[/quote]

I'm trying to be understanding but,  yes,  this is a pretty poor apology.  I am learning that people with Tourettes don't think they should have to apologize for who they are (and I agree to an extent), but they shouldn't ignore the potential harm their tics could cause others.  Davidson didn't even acknowledge the specific harm that word in that setting would cause the Black folks on the receiving end. [/quote]

When you have this condition for years and years and so this is an hourly / frequent occurance for you, it is different from someone hearing for the first time. It is just the norm for the person with the disability. I worked in a setting with people who had OCD and Tourette's that were so severe that they were hospitalized. Their rituals and outbursts often didn't even regster with them due to the frequency and severity - other than they were exhausted and frustrated. Since they are not controllable - they aren't doig a deep dive into the impact of something they can't control. For some of them the rituals or outbursts were multiple times a minute, over and over and over - thousands of times a day. There isn't a conscious reflective thought process that reflects and dissects each ritual or outburst and its impact as it is just part of their life and a part that brings them so much struggle and pain.

This was obviously a different setting but over time I am sure he gets somewhat numb to the impact and has to just carry on as he likely has frequent tics and vocalizations and can't stop his life and what he is going a hundred times a day to do a reflection and to find those he has caused an impact to and to try to see what they need from him to resolve any harm they felt. He likely gets looks and comments of disgust all day every day - it is just part of his existance. [/quote]

I get that and I'm not referring to normal daily interactions.  I imagine having this condition is beyond exhausting and reading accounts from people with Tourettes is saddening.  But, making this statement, after an international incident like what we're discussing,  that was presumably crafted and vetted by his team and the movie studio should have been a little more emphatic and less self- promotional. [/quote]

+1 Davidson is asking for a lot of grace, while extending none. For a statement that I assume was run through at least one PR professional, it's remarkably lacking in depth or understanding of the impact of his actions. [/quote]

Actions need to be under control. Vocalizations and tics are not considered actions. There is no aim or goal, they are involuntary and not under the control of the individual. [/quote]

Wow. You are just determined to insist that persons with disabilities have no agency whatsoever, and no responsibility to live in a society. Even if you thought that, for PR reasons you should want this apology to be better because this is how millions of people around the world are learning about vocal tics, and if the message they take away is "racial slurs need no apology," then G-d knows where we'll end up. [/quote]

No, I just understand the difference between intentional / unintentional, involuntary / voluntary, controlled / uncontrolled.  He did not make a racial slur - he had an involuntary vocal tic of [b]word that can also be used and intended as a racial slur.[/b][/quote]

So, your argument is that he happened to make a sound "that can be used and intended as a racial slur" three times and only at Black folks, but we should not call it a slur because it only CAN be used as a slur? [/quote]

That is right. The sound can be made and the word can be said without it being a slur. If two black people say it to each other, it can be understand as something other than a racial slur, if a Japanese person says 那个 which sounds the same, it can be understood as something other than a racial slur, and if a person with involuntary vocal ticks says it as part of their disability, it can be understood as something other than a racial slur. [/quote]

LOL. This is hilarious. He used it when Black men were onstage, when a Black woman walked by on the red carpet, and when Black folks were honored at the dinner, but it is "something other than a racial slur."

Sure. Sure. [/quote]

There are people who say that word to black men all the time, and it isn't a slur.   We are told all the time that it's different because of who is saying it - which is *precisely* the point here.  [/quote]

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