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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread is full of insecure Ivy alums who can't accept that there are good non-Ivy schools out there.[/quote]

williams and amherst are barely 10% test optional and sub 40% yield. the only secure ones are lac students who couldnt get into ivies which would be almost all of them[/quote]

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Children must learn to self-soothe.[/quote]

lol, we went to schools far better than your shit lacs dont worry.[/quote]

You most assuredly didn’t go to a better school than the top SLACs.

I actually went to a non-selective public but I’m comfortable with the reality that top SLACs are as good or better than any school or group of schools for undergraduate education. [/quote]
Once again, no actual proof they have better teaching. No reason to believe so either.[/quote]

As opposed to your "rock solid" proof that Ivies have better teaching and resources? Proof which is non existent.

Anyway, here is some actual material from strong sources along with a research paper explicitly pointing out that the incentives for teaching are misaligned at R1s.

https://www.macfound.org/press/press-releases/creativity-benefit-liberal-education

https://www.aei.org/politics-and-public-opinion/why-are-liberal-arts-college-faculty-building-better-relationships-with-their-students/

https://www.hillpublisher.com/UpFile/202405/20240521181851.pdf[/quote]
R1s range from Harvard to ASU. It’s a bit disingenuous to say you’re going to give sources and then not compare the topic at hand. The ivies have undergraduate colleges that are highly focused on teaching while connecting undergraduate students with research institutes.

What makes you think Princeton is a worse teaching institution than Williams?[/quote]

Among other things:

Princeton Review Professor Interesting Rating:  Williams 94/99; Princeton 84/99
Princeton Review Professor Accessible Rating:  Williams 97/99; Princeton 84/99
Princeton Review Academic Rating*:  Williams 97/99; Princeton 88/99

*How hard students work and how much they get back for their efforts, on a scale of 60–99. This rating is calculated from student survey results and statistical information reported by administrators. Factors weighed include how many hours students study outside of the classroom and the quality of students the school attracts. We also considered students' assessments of their professors, class size, student–teacher ratio, use of teaching assistants, amount of class discussion, registration, and resources. [/quote]

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