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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I do wonder how this will change students' applications in the future.

Asian students are definitely deserving of these seats, but it's just true that a high concentration of Asians changes the campus culture. Asian students tend to intensify the academic environment but are more introverted and aren't as involved in sports or parties. This fundamentally alters the college experience.

If the entire T20 becomes plurality Asian, my general guess is that many affluent white families will stop valuing these schools so much because they tend to really care about the overall "college experience." Far more white kids are going to opt for the SEC or B10 experience over the private T20s. [/quote]

Doubtful.  Whites haven't stopped applying to and going to the UCs as a result of Asian invasion[/quote]

Actually in CA they have. If you look at the strong privates in CA (which is where affluent white kids go) you will see far lower numbers attending top UCs. They are opting for OOS privates because of the crazy admissions process, crowded campuses and poor housing situation. Middle class white kids are still attending the UCs.[/quote]

I am a different poster but it is true Stanley Zhong was not as "top" as his parents think in terms of UC's.   UC's are looking for top grades in all classes, not just stem, he was light in terms of his non stem course work, English in particular.  Further, UC's don't count grades from 9th or 12th grade and they cap the number of AP's that boost the GPA.  He got a B in 10th grade, he was up against thousands of kids who had the full scope of course work and got all A's (like 40+ kids at his own high school), that is why he didn't get into Cal or UCLA, they took the kids with straight A's.  
His transcript is on page 75 of this link to his case but the GPA isn't UC calculated.   https://clearinghouse-umich-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/doc/157820.pdf

False.  The real reason is the top privates do horrendously in UC admissions.

You likely don't even know this exists:

https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/about-us/information-center/admissions-source-school

UC enrollment has been going up for several top privates like Nueva, Menlo, Harker.  Admissions is low however.[/quote]

PP: I know that material well, extremely well in fact. I also know the A-G requirements, ninth grade exclusion (not at SLO), ELC implications (local and state), etc. whatever you would like to talk about. I can tell you exactly why Stanley Zhong was shut out as well...hint, he had a terrible transcript for UC requirements.

I also know that your hypothesis is totally incorrect. I also know that multiple large privates in the Bay Area actually suggest to kids that they not apply to the top UCs unless they actually want to attend because the number of slots they end up with is pretty consistent or fixed depending on your POV. So top kids getting slots that won't yield hurts others at the school who would yield.

Why do you think admissions are low? The top kids generally aren't applying unless they are Asian. They are choosing top privates instead though a few will go for other subjects. Also, many of the Asian kids from the schools that you mention go top Private as well. The UCs are far more interesting to Asian Public school kids in the Bay Area.[/quote]

Show me stanley’s transcript. why was it “bad for UCs” when he had a top gpa[/quote][/quote]

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