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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I just reconnected with a group of college friends and we met up for dinner. Every single one looks fantastic - maybe even better in their mid 40s than their 20s. I came to find out that 3 of the 4 women are on GLPs which helped them lose 10-20 lbs (none were overweight) and now they are just micro dosing to maintain. They all said they feel better then they have in years, didn’t have bad side effects, and focus on eating protein so they don’t lose muscle.

Anyway, here I am struggling to lose 10-15 lbs like always - restricting my calories, working out a ton, etc, and barely seeing the scale move. Every time I do lose it it ends up coming back again.

[b]Just wondering why I don’t take the easier route like so many others.[/b] I would need to find a doctor to prescribe it since my PCP won’t (despite telling me my BMI is too high and I need to focus on losing 10-15 lbs).[/quote]

This is why no one talks to you about it. You are a judgey friend.  No one needs that in their life. [/quote]

Not OP but it’s true. It is the easier route. Exercising hard annd regularly at the same time as restricting calories when you work full time and are raising kids is hard. Injecting yourself with weight-loss drugs that work = easy.[/quote]

Ok I'm going to blow your mind here. I've been getting up at 5am to exercise 5 days/week (3 days lifting, 2 days cardio) and walking at least 8k+ steps per day for 3 years. I've dutifully tracked macros nearly every single day. I meal prepped breakfast and lunch and thoughtfully planned dinners. I lost 12 pounds and then got stuck for 2 years+.

I'm on Zepbound now and [i]I still do all of those things.[/i] But now, I've dropped 14 pounds in 2.5 months-- on a "starter"-- not even therapeutic dose. I'm sure there are people who use it to suppress their appetite and when they do eat, eat like shit and don't exercise. But my point is for those of us trying to make lasting changes that support health its STILL hard, albeit admittedly not as frustrating as it used to be. [/quote]

Your story is making me question how healthy all of this is. If your body is fighting you this hard to keep pounds that you have to drug yourself to lose weight, how healthy is this drug? Maybe you shouldn't be losing this weight and the doctors are actually wrong about all of this. Wouldn't be the first time doctors got it wrong.[/quote]

Are you suggesting that person would be healthier while overweight?  Are you also suggesting that the body is right and medicine is wrong?  Do you take that position for any other medical condition?

So freakin' bizarre to me.[/quote]

You seem to be posing a false dichotomy: be overweight or take GLP-1s. There are alternatives to GLP-1s like changing one's diet or exercising more. I do know overweight people who'd rather give the alternatives a fair shot before considering the GLP-1 route.

The situation could be more dire for the truly obese for whom GLP-1s could be a better route than more drastic approaches like bariatric surgery.

I have nothing to say about normal weight people who use GLP-1s other than I truly do not understand it anymore than I understand non-ADHD individuals taking Adderall.[/quote]

No it not a false dichotomy.  We are talking about people who have been prescribed a medication for a medical problem.  Most have likely “given the alternatives a shot”.  The fact that you think they don’t know about that and haven’t tried because of laziness reflects poorly on you and your character.

You responded (assuming you are the same poster) to someone who literally said they have been working out 5 days a week for years and weight loss stalled until zepbound.  You actually suggested the person might be healthier staying overweight!  I try to refrain from using pejoratives to describe comments but that one really tests my resolve.

Not only have these drugs helped millions lose weight, they have reduced the number of surgeries substantially and that number continues to fall.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2024/10/weight-loss-surgery-down-25-percent-as-anti-obesity-drug-use-soars/

You ignore the medical research on these drugs which is easily found and has been linked multiple times in this very thread.  If you take any medications, ever, then you are a hypocrite as well.

You really should stop posting on this topic until you do some research.  You’re kinda dangerous.[/quote]

PP. I was actually an NP--this was my first post on this thread. So only the comment beginning false dichotomy is attributable to me.

We must know different people. I know people who are overweight because they haven't been paying much attention to their increasing weight and actually have never tried to diet in any serious way nor gone on an ambitious exercise regimes. For these people--and I repeat this is about those with BMIs in the overweight category, NOT obese BMIs--it actually makes common sense to first try a change in eating habits and getting more exercise before leaping to GLP-1s, a medication that likely would have to be taken for life.

For this group of people, the group my post clearly addressed, it is a false dichotomy to say they have a choice only of taking GLP-1s or being overweight. Millions of overweight people for many, many years before GLP-1s were able to lose weight through diet and exercise. For those who have tried and failed multiple times, GLP-1s are now available as an option. But promoting these medications as a first choice for this group is a bit odd.

It is a totally different story for the BMI obese as I said in my post.

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