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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's not what a RIF is, OP.[/quote]

The OPM memo calls it a RIF. [/quote]

Holy shit, the OPM memo is a bloodbath.  Wow.  The EO stopped short of this, this is absolutely nuts.

https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/OPM%20Memo%20Initial%20Guidance%20Regarding%20DEIA%20Executive%20Orders.pdf
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I wonder how many acting heads are going to quit rather than send out those memos. 
I honestly can’t see the person acting at my agency sending that out - she’s just the last one standing and as far as I can tell totally non-political.[/quote]

That memo is just...another level. I will be very interested to see if our acting sends it out. It's one thing to say, hey, we've decided to eliminate all these programs. It's something totally different to say they resulted in "shameful discrimination" and then threaten the workforce if they don't report "coded language." But nothing to see here! It's all good and totally normal governing.[/quote]

+1. These people didn't create the DEI offices and in most cases didn't create the policies people are complaining about. They were assigned to do a job. It's fine to decide that job is unwanted now, but making the employees into villains should worry everybody. Every fed will at some point work on something the other side doesn't like.[/quote]

They weren't assigned to these offices, they applied to work in them, presumably because they wanted to advance that mission.  The mission has been discredited, the consequences follow.  [/quote]

Where is the compassion for these workers and their families?
Is this all bc of some crazy idea that they are taking jobs from white Christian men? Or bc they are more educated than white Christian men?
I don’t understand the hate and desire for revenge. And frankly, I don’t want to. Don’t you understand that this mass layoff will affect us all? Unemployed, instability, lost income, etc [/quote]

Why all this racial and anti Christian animosity?[/quote]

Observing the fact that white Christians have had privileged opportunities (whether they deserved it or not) is not animosity. It is a fact. NP. [/quote]

This has nothing to do with the DEI RIF, or whatever its category. I’m not a white Christian. [b]I don’t believe that my interests were supported by the DEI office and corresponding trainings. [/b]I don’t feel harmed by its removal. I do feel for the people who might lose their jobs, though. It’s a tough job economy.[/quote]

How so? Exactly, how so? I'm white. Did not bother me either way to hear that my agency was reaching out to make opportunities available to disadvantaged or under-represented groups. Or to hear that there may be systemic biases in employment decisions. I didn't think of it once. It didn't affect me. [/quote]

I never heard of any reaching out to make opportunities available to disadvantaged or under-represented groups. I also never experienced any bias as a federal employee who is female and a minority. As to systemic bias? I have no experience.

But, that’s neither here nor there because my personal experience doesn’t matter. What matters is whether these positions were effective in a way that did not impose its own racism. Whether biases for or against were reduced. Because that’s the point. “Under-represented” is not the point. We don’t control who applies to any given position.

The job duties that I observed the offices undertaking, no offense to them, amounted largely to webinars.[/quote]

So there was no affect to you. And you post is clear on one point: you have absolutely no idea what these programs are. You references to hiring, for example, is outside DEI. "Imposing racism" is also outside it. And if you think it did, again, you can file a complaint with your EEO office. [/quote]

The point is that these offices didn’t have an effect on anyone. They were not effective.

My observation of what they are over the past years is a provider of virtual brown bag lunch speakers on topics not exactly relevant.

These functions, whatever they are, can be incorporated into EEO or HR. There isn’t enough substance to merit several FTEs.[/quote]

I'm the person to whom you are responding. I will say that is more an accurate description: training and information. Whether that requires FTEs is agency dependent and ours had plenty to do. But they are not eliminating these positions b/c of the amount of work but b/c of the work and information they were putting out there. THAT is the problem to me. Why is it so hard for some of you to know that there is institutional biases? That doesn't mean you're "racist" but it is self-awareness. I'll never understand why that is so difficult for some of you to hear. [/quote]

Puhlease.  DEI folk constantly claim their is institutional racism.  Yet they can almost never define it with concrete examples. There are never any tangible goals anyone could ever reach to say that yeah, institutional racism is over. Nope, they will keep shifting the definition for forever.  Certain races will be persecuted for forever and the permanent victims no matter what. That's the only way you can keep DEI jobs and the cottage industry alive.  DEI jobs go extinct if racism or persecution ends, therefore racism and persecution are never allowed to end. They'll always make up junk and shift goal posts so that certain races and groups are persecuted.  They have now made up like 49 genders and sexualities or whatever. The more groups and factions they make up, the more probability they can find oppression, even though it is entirerly made up in their brain.[/quote]

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