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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The number of people out here defending yield protection practices is crazy. And yes it is a real thing. Any college counselor knows this. [/quote] So don’t apply to schools that yield protect or make it very clear you are actually interested. Colleges have no obligation to take the highest stats kids. They are generally very open about their holistic processes. They have every right to accept or reject folks for any reason as long as it is not an illegal one. As far as I know, “high stats” kids are not a protected class, just one that feels entitled.[/quote] No one has said yield protection is illegal. Just shameful. (You know it’s shameful because of how hard people work to deny that it happens.)[/quote] It's not shameful for a college to reject someone they don't think will attend. [/quote] Exactly! I'm not seeing the problem here. If you asked these people whether their kid would have gone to X school, if accepted - the answer will invariably be NO. They're just using it as a backup and the schools see right through that.[/quote] The applications are not free. If the kid has gone thru the process and paid the fee then it means they may attend it even if the likelihood is small. If good colleges reject because of the competition and average colleges reject because of yield protection then what should the students do?[/quote] This. The likelihood is the issue - expensive enrollment management consultants for the would-be safety (yes, I'm taking a swipe at them here) can't figure out the likelihood that the high stats student will/won't attend because selective college admissions is so rife with uncertainty. If they could overcome that uncertainty and calculate that likelihood, they would know how many high stats students would be expected to end up enrolling at the safety once accepted, and the would-be safety could just accept them. Instead, it's off to the WL.[/quote] You’re not going to get yield protected from a safety ( >70% admit rate) ffs. They don’t care about their yield. Or are you one of these people who says about a 30% admit rate school - “that’s a safety for MY KID”?[/quote] here you go again, gloating that a talented, hard working, high achieving student was punished for the hubris of believing that they would be accepted to a school where they are very much above 75h percentile.[/quote] I don't even know what you're talking about. I don't believe high stats kids are going to get rejected from a true safety school - i.e., above 70% admit rate. If you are talking about a high stats kid who is above the 75th percentile for a school that is a 30% admit rate school, and gets rejected, I am not gloating about that (where did that idea come from?). But I would say that no kid, no matter how strong an applicant, should think they are automatically going to get accepted to such a school. They could get rejected for a number of reasons, and not even for "yield protection". If you think a high stats kid is an auto-admit to a selective "target" school, then that is indeed hubris. The fact that the kid is not an auto-admit to a target school is the reason such kids should apply to more than one target school. [quote]The student above 75th percentile is rightly assuming that, assuming the rest of the application is on the level, the school should accept them and not engage in elaborate guesswork of where else the student will also be accepted.[/quote] If you are talking about a strong applicant to a school that has a 30% admit rate, then no it is not at all right to assume the school will accept that kid. Again, this is not even a "yield protection" issue. Take "yield protection" off the table and a high stats kid is still not guaranteed to get into a school that admits around 30% of its applicants. Completely wrongheaded to think you will automatically get into such a school. [/quote] +1000[/quote]
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