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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We used to teach men that discipline was necessary for a quality life and successful career. Now people complain of it being “anti-male” to discipline boys rightfully for erratic behavior. I do think more boys would benefit from an all male environment, since girls are socialized to be more disciplined and still than men.[/quote]

Counterpoint, for generations we kept women out of academics when they are far capable both there and in any thing that requires time management and executive function. The guys will experience discipline in their gigs driving for Amazon and Doordash.
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Yes, this. I don't think it's "anti-male" to acknowledge this and say to them "sorry, if you don't have the grades and ability to take up a spot in XXX college, then you shouldn't." Especially since they are at least being judged on their merits instead of arbitrarily excluded like women were for generations. [/quote]

By what metrics are women being judged on their merits? You need to move past the patriarchy is bad drivel. Girls do slighlty better on grades and slightly worse on standardized testing like the SAT. Definitely not what you'd expect from the admission percentages quoted earlier.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06292-0
https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf

If boys and girls do about the same in high school, it is legitimate to ask why the university enrollment doesnt reflect that.

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Girls do better in school because teachers show favoritism these days. In the past, parents always complained that boys were favored by teachers so I guess their girls grew up and became teachers.

The SAT has been revised several times because the girls weren't scoring as high as the boys. What has happened is that the test, itself, has been dumbed down to allow girls to catch up. The average may look the same but traditionally boys outperformed girls [u]among the high scorers[/u]. Now there are so many kids that get so-called high scores because the test is so easy. It's also a shorter test that allows a calculator. What a joke. This is just another way of harmonizing scores and results by racing to the bottom. I mean they added the stupid third section (writing) for the benefit of girls for several years before getting rid of it and just making the test even easier. Arguing for a gender or culture gap makes no sense because plenty of Asians who are also girls have always scored high. Even the test optional movement is partly driven by the gender gap. I mean my kid just got a 99++ percentile in the PSAT in 10th grade without even studying for it--I doubt they would have gotten that score if they had taken it 30 years ago...

"Colleges are dropping the SAT in admissions: Evidence of a gender gap has existed for decades"
[url]https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/careers/032622/colleges-are-dropping-the-sat-in-admissions[/url]

"The Highest-Performing Women Are (Still) Scoring Lower Than Men on the SAT"
[url]https://msmagazine.com/2018/02/15/highest-performing-women-still-scoring-lower-men-sat/[/url]

"Colleges are dropping the SAT in admissions. That’s a good thing for most girls"
[url]https://19thnews.org/2022/03/colleges-admissions-dropping-sat-exam-gender-gap/[/url]

College Board data show that more boys score higher at the top end than girls
[url]https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf[/url]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/VwxVevW.png[/img]

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