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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m surprised there are 10 pages of postings on this. Other than kids who need apps to control their medical equipment, what exactly is the need for a child to have a phone accessible at all times? Put it away, and keep it away. [/quote]

+1.  It’s shocking to me that this is controversial.  Unless there is a medical need, your kid doesn’t need a phone during school hours.

Plus, the new policy doesn’t actually change the rule but rather just helps teachers to enforce the rule that already exists.  Students have never been allowed to have phones out during class time.  Now teachers don’t have to waste time trying to police this.  [/quote]

I don't see how it's different than before, if the rule was always in place. Teachers are still going to have to police it to enforce the rule. The only - hopeful - difference is that they actually DO enforce it. But seriously,[b] I have already had one school administrator during a phone conversation suggest I text my student. You mean the one who's in class right now and not supposed to have their phone available during class[/b]? [/quote]

I can't believe that's still going on. Last year when I needed to pick up my DD from high school for dr appointments, the office wanted me to text/call her to come down. And annoyed when that didn't work (because her phone is away when she's in class!) that they had to call the classroom.

The grown ups in the building need to get used to being old school too.[/quote]

Or we could just admit that these restrictions are not going to work because that's not the way society works anymore. [/quote]

“It’s time to give up! We’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas!”[/quote]

Well, no. But you don't just do something just to do something. First (1) you define the problem we're trying to solve. Then (2) explain how this proposal will help. I still have not heard convincing arguments for either. So color me unconvinced. [/quote]

Just what is it you're waiting to hear? The problem has been noted countless times: kids distracted, not engaged in class, teachers spending too much time policing and not teaching, etc.  If you haven't heard how this proposal will help, you're just not listening - no phones, no more phone distractions, far less teacher policing. That not being "convincing" enough for you indicates that you just don't believe it's a problem and should absolutely not be addressed by banning phones. There is no convincing someone with that attitude and lack of open mindedness.[/quote]

ok so if the problem is distraction in class then can you explain why APS is locking phones in pouches for the ENTIRE day in some schools and not allowing them out between classes? [/quote]

Because it's a pilot program that offers insight into potential benefits of zero phones v. phones availabe during "non-instructional" time.
Because it eliminates ambiguities and arguments around "non-instructional" time within a class period (ie, "individual work time" or teacher not actively lecturing time)
Because it's easier than having to wait for everyone to put their phones away at the beginning of every single class.
Because it eliminates time wasted at the beginning of every class while students "finish up just for a second" what they're doing and getting their phones put away.
Because it keeps minds focused on school and not on what's going on in the online world.
Because it eliminates needless fake restroom breaks so students can use their phones during class by leaving class and thereby not being under the restriction.
Because it also addresses the secondary issue of social interaction and social skills development, engaging with each other face-to-face.

Now, answer my question. What is it you're waiting to hear other than what aligns with your current personal position?
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these assumptions are HILARIOUS. This isn't how it worked out at all.

Harder, not easier.
More time wasted, not less.
etc etc [/quote]

Says who? Based on what?
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