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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like I have to defend my beloved Berkeley from you private school fan boys who probably can’t even find the administrations office without your counselor holding your hand.  That’s why Berkeley grads run circles around you at the workplace.  We’re actually taught how to survive in the real world.

Berkeley has been under-ranked for the last 30 or so years.  You’re talking about US News rigging the methodology to favor publics last year?  Well, what the heck did they do around 1990 when perennial top 5 Berkeley was suddenly pushed out of top 20?  Even Michigan used to be consistently top 10.

Here are the facts:   Berkeley has more top 10 departments than any school not named Harvard (I think we’re tied); including #1 CS, #2 engineering, #1 chemistry, #3 physics, #3 math, #1 english, #1 sociolgy, #1 english, #1 history, #3 political science, #1 psychology, and so on.

But, but, but those are grad school rankings.  That’s how I know you’ve never attended a research university, otherwise you’d know the grad and undergraduate levels are intertwined; grad schools are ranked according to strength of faculty and students, and faculty also teaches the undergrads and grad students serve as TAs.

Berkeley also tied with Harvard with most Nobel prize (although I think we have more in recent memory.  David card and Jennifer doudna each won one the last few years).

Our history is literally unrivaled, at least the last 100 years.  From the Manhattan project, the free speech movement, contribution to tech and rise of Silicon Valley, periodic table, immunotherapy, gene editing, perhaps no institution has helped shape the country in the world more.

Times higher education calls us one of the super six universities, along with mit, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, and Cambridge.

So, eat it.  I hope Berkeley moves up even higher this year in this stupid ranking just pissed you guys off even more.  Time to accept the fact that public schools are just as good, if not better, than most ivies and “elite” private schools.  Your time has passed.  It’s the era of the tech-heavy schools. [/quote]

if this was true, every top 10 ranking would be dominated by the top engineering schools which it is not

berkeley always has been and always will be an overpriced shithole for undergrad. a 4 year graduation rate in the 70s and now completely test optional. lolz[/quote]

#5 forbes
#8 WSJ
#10 Washington monthly
#5 U.S. news global
#5 ARWU
#12 QS
#9 THE

And in a couple weeks, #13 US news national.  You heard it here first.  Cry.[/quote]

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