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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m guessing the murder rampage was seized on by Russia who stirred things up with misinformation. Much like here, it’s easy to fool the simple-minded people. [/quote]

So the young girls weren’t killed by a non-native to the country?[/quote]

They were killed by a Brit born non native.

The thing is he should be  given the death penalty. Not sure why Uk doesn’t have that. How can a killer of kids not get killed? Why use  taxpayer dollars to make knife wielding lunatics live a seemingly happy and balanced life in jail? European jails are a joke[/quote]

Because when you kill a murderer, you become a murderer.

We can come up with solutions that do not rely on violence. [/quote]

I'm sorry - but for such a heinous crime the death penalty should be on the table. My mostly liberal Gen Z DD agrees. [/quote]

+1. Agree. Psycho mass murders should get death penalty. The end.[/quote]

What about all the other institutions that commit and knowingly cause mass deaths? Our government and military, for one. Corporations that knowingly poison us and the environment. Billionaires that knowingly hoard resources while many stave. You guys only see violence on an individual level. Consider what is *driving* this rage in everyone! ECONOMIC STRESS AND INEQUALITY.

We will never solve the problem if we can't be honest about the cause. The problem is societal. The gulf between have and have not is growing at a rapid clip. People who have never been have nots are finding themselves facing new economic pressures and they are lashing out.

The violence will only increase until we admit why it's happening and do something about it. Throwing individual people in jail for "violence" while ignoring the societal issues causing the "violence" and the violence perpetrated by institutions and capitalism itself will not restore peace.

Expect more of these episodes, not less, as wealth inequality grows and the climate and environment goes to shit. If humans don't learn to share soon, we are doomed. [/quote]

Whatever troll. Poor people are just as deserving of safety and as not committing violence as rich people and should be locked up if they do so. [/quote]

I'm curious to know how you read my post and somehow came away with the message "poor people aren't deserving of safety" when that was literally my point.

The owner class kills people en masse on a daily basis but we don't call it violence. They are actively causing and benefitting from climate change and the destruction of the environment. They are the ones that have orchestrated the economic desperation that is causing these blowups.

Regular people are at each other's throats, trying to figure out why all these bad things are happening. People will only get more violent as they get more desperate.

If you want to solve the problem, you have to restore prosperity and opportunity for EVERYONE, not just the wealthy few. Throwing everyone in jail for doing what they see as necessary to survive and secure a future for themselves and their families WILL NOT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. [/quote]

Killing little girls at a dance class is doing what’s “necessary to survive”? Are you high? [/quote]

You're bent on misunderstanding what I'm saying, yet you called me a troll.

People are angry. They are despairing. People in despair do awful, sometimes violent things that don't make any sense. Americans should understand that better than anyone since we serve as cannon fodder for desperate, despairing, rage filled young men on a daily basis.

Expect the rage and despair and violence to continue, so long as we as a society allow people to live in circumstances that understably cause rage and despair and violence.

We have exploited the global south for profit for hundreds of years. We've mettled in their politics, robbed them of their resources, and destroyed the environment. And we wonder why they're angry, we wonder why they're flooding into our borders, and we wonder why they hate us.

Our own citizens are feeling increasing amounts of economic pressure. They resent their lowering standard of living, the perceived lack of opportunity, and the perceived favoritism of and competition from these migrants and refugees created by our governments and owner class.

The people screwing you are not your neighbors. The people screwing you are the ones with all the actual power and influence. That's the violence we need to address. That is my point. People are directing their anger and hate at the wrong people. Nowhere did I say it was acceptable to murder children.

But ask yourself why we look the other way when our militaries murder children on a regular basis, when corporation poison their drinking water, and enslave them. But we lose our shit when individuals commit violence on a much smaller scale. [/quote]
Why come to western countries if we've exploited them so badly?

Their own countries allow them to live in terrible conditions and put religious law above everything else. They don't care about the quality of life one bit. They certainly don't care about women. They bring their regressive attitudes and many hate their host countries. This is not new. [/quote]

Common people in those countries have as much actual control over what their own governments as we do—none. They are coming here because the people who hold power in our countries have made their countries unlivable.

None of us have any real control over any of this sh!+ and that's my point. I have no beef with the common people of Israel. I have no beef with the common people of Palestine. Or Russia. Or China. Or Iran. The people we all should be directing our ire at are the people who pull the strings. THAT is the violence we should be concerning ourselves with.

Climate change is coming. There will be scarcer resources and parts of the world will become uninhabitable. We either come together in opposition to the real threats to humanity and the people who refuse to stop destroying our planet for personal gain, or we will perish at each other's hands while the people who orchestrated the crisis hide in their mansions and bunkers. [/quote]
Okay, who are the people who pull the strings? [/quote]

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