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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I find it strange Dems don’t understand the social contract requires having children (at least 1) [/b]

Right, so George Washington was, what, ripping up the social contract? The very GOAT of founding fathers to our country?

Weirdo.[/quote]

Also James Madison‚ James Buchanan, James K. Polk and Andrew Jackson had no biological children. At least five former POTUS with no bio kids. [b]It's actually a bit interesting, given the lack of effective birth control back then[/b]. Also, Andrew Jackson is lionized by the modern rightwing in spite of his lack of bio kids.....which is also very interesting. [/quote]

Syphilis and other STD rates were really crazy back then, and some of those guys were in the army, which usually had camps of prostitutes following them.  A lot of men were actually infertile due to STDs.  And, of course, we tend to forget the high rates of natural infertility because so many people now either adopt or have fertility treatments. Anyone who does geneological or other historical research knows that it was VERY common for every family to have the childless aunt or uncle in the mix -- sometimes they adopted but often times they just were the beloved auntie/uncle that helped out nieces/nephews with childcare, money, etc.  Also, particularly for women, most of the women that made the biggest contributions to the well-being of our nation did not have children of their own (because the women with children just did not have the time to do so).  The idea that everyone is going to have kids of their own is a really recent phenomenon.  Vance should study more history.

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