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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Any anyway, if killing a special needs child because the family can’t cope is not ok, is it ok to kill a baby? And if it’s not ok to kill a newborn baby, why is it ok to kill a fetus?

And if you are ok with killing a special needs fetus at 38 weeks, are you also ok with killing healthy fetuses at 38 weeks?

I am not ok with either.
I am also not ok that collectively speaking we do not give humanity to fetuses who are found to have defects or disabilities. I can certainly understand and have compassion for families that would choose to end such pregnancies, but that does not make it right. We need to do better to support those families raising special needs families. We might better do so if more of us could actually see them.

And if you tell me that I can’t possibly understand the plight of these families, I will tell you that I do, because I was in such a family. I saw my brother being born, and then I saw him diagnosed with a fatal heart defect days later. We were extremely poor, my parents couldn’t afford a hospital birth let alone the bills that came later after the diagnosis. We took my brother home to receive palliative care and he died a few days later. It was hard for all of us, and horrible for my mom. But not one of us can imagine that it would have been less horrible for her to abort. 
We treasured our few days with my brother.

I gave birth to healthy children but have families around us where this was not so. I cannot imagine those children not being here, or being less valuable. Remember that any person could become disabled at any time in their life. That does not diminish their humanity.[/quote]

What I choose is mine of your effing concern.  
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Isn’t it? If you saw someone beating their child, would you say that is none of your concern?[/quote]

Child, you are the one cruising for a bruising if you think you are going to tell my kid what she can and cannot do with her uterus.   Stay out of these decisions for other women.  They are not your concern.[/quote]

I truly don’t care what anyone does with their uterus. 
But I can understand the position of wanting to protect innocent human life. I don’t personally identify as pro-life, but I’m aware that some who do, have a sincerely held belief that a person becomes a person some time before birth (I don’t agree with my conservative cousin, for example, when that is) and that by ending the pregnancy you are ending a life. You are not doing your movement any favors by refusing to even discuss or acknowledge it.[/quote]

We discuss it all the time.  The compromise of roe was where it landed and was in place for almost 50 years.

It also protected fertility clinics and healthcare practitioners.  Now some are being driven out of certain states and increasing the risk for women in the state that need obstetrical care.

The anti abortion side took their ignorant simplistic view of abortion and smashed it with a sledgehammer and began the destruction of the entire maternal healthcare systems in some states.

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Who is “we”?
The “hands off my body” protesters?[/quote]

Just stay out of private reproductive decisions entirely unless it is your own uterus involved.  Simple.[/quote]

Exactly. 
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