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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Any anyway, if killing a special needs child because the family can’t cope is not ok, is it ok to kill a baby? And if it’s not ok to kill a newborn baby, why is it ok to kill a fetus?

And if you are ok with killing a special needs fetus at 38 weeks, are you also ok with killing healthy fetuses at 38 weeks?

I am not ok with either.
I am also not ok that collectively speaking we do not give humanity to fetuses who are found to have defects or disabilities. I can certainly understand and have compassion for families that would choose to end such pregnancies, but that does not make it right. We need to do better to support those families raising special needs families. We might better do so if more of us could actually see them.

And if you tell me that I can’t possibly understand the plight of these families, I will tell you that I do, because I was in such a family. I saw my brother being born, and then I saw him diagnosed with a fatal heart defect days later. We were extremely poor, my parents couldn’t afford a hospital birth let alone the bills that came later after the diagnosis. We took my brother home to receive palliative care and he died a few days later. It was hard for all of us, and horrible for my mom. But not one of us can imagine that it would have been less horrible for her to abort. 
We treasured our few days with my brother.

I gave birth to healthy children but have families around us where this was not so. I cannot imagine those children not being here, or being less valuable. Remember that any person could become disabled at any time in their life. That does not diminish their humanity.[/quote]

Ok let’s say you are in a burning building. To your right is a 2 year old child. To your left is 40 embryos in Petri dishes. You can only save one. Which one do you choose? If you would save 1 life instead of 40, then you know it is not the same.[/quote]

Dude you are asking the wrong person. I never made claims about “saving the embryos” nor have I taken any position that all abortions are murder. [/quote]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your post, but you seem to be saying there is no line to draw between child, baby, newborn, and fetus.

I am very sorry about your brother and what your family went through.
 I am not trying to draw a comparison here because it is not the same. But I see Instagram influencers decide to carry a fetus to term after being told they will only just weeks or months to live and that they will be extremely uncomfortable and in pain during that time. Those parents spend that time posting the poor child all over the internet for likes and follows. It is heartbreaking. I respect their right to carry the baby to term and I can’t predict what choice I would make in that position. From the outside looking in, it seems that abortion might have been the merciful choice. [/quote]

I’ve seen those type of parents on the internet. I didn’t get the impression that they were doing it for likes and follows, but that it was their way of processing, even if it seems strange to us.

The abortion option seems merciful only because the killing/death is hidden, happening inside the mother’s body. Would post-birth euthanasia of a baby also be considered merciful? It seems arbitrary that an abortion prior to birth is merciful but euthanasia a few hours later, or a few days later is seen differently. Or is it?[/quote]

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