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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's weird (and a little creepy) how many parents who don't have children at MVA care so much about the program and want it shut down. I don't find the budget argument convincing. While MVA may not save MCPS money, it also doesn't appear to impose much of a burden that would impact other schools.

I know a family whose children are thriving at MVA. They didn't perform as well in the in-person environment. I am only happy for them.

To be frank, [b]it seems like you can't accept that some children can thrive in an environment different from your own kids'[/b]. Perhaps there are some insecurities or unresolved issues at play.

It's just so strange. Don't you have better things to do? Why bother posting at all?

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Oh, I accept that children thrive in different environments.  I have four kids.  Two are/were in MCPS and the other two are in private. The ones in private don't thrive at our home school, but they do thrive at their wonderful small school with smaller classes. Anyone who has kids who don't "thrive" at MCPS should reach into their own wallet and pay for the alternative environment.

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Your privilege is showing.  You really need to accept the fact public schools don’t serve just who you think deserve an education. Public school isn’t a one-size fits all. With this mentality, [b]should we also cut the community-based programs that serve highly disabled children?[/b] You know, children who don’t (can’t) meet your standard of acceptable data? Some of [b]those children [/b]are thriving at the Virtual Academy. You are so tone deaf you can’t even see your blatant discrimination of innocent children. You really are despicable.  [/quote]

Wait. Are you arguing that "highly disabled children" are being served by MVA? Because that's a clear FAPE violation given that the level of services required are not built into the MVA model.

If you are arguing against special education in general, based on outcomes, here's a big difference between MVA and a self-contained classroom for a kid with intellectual disabilities - the kid with disabilities has an IEP to allow them to access the curriculum at whatever level is appropriate.

Someone asked up thread why some of us care about MVA. First of all, because the folks arguing FOR MVA in this forum are the absolute worst possible ambassadors for the program. I can't count how many times MVA advocates have accused the rest of us of "not wanting to be around our children." Moreover, the arguments for MVA in this forum are bad, like escaping predominantly poor/working class peers.

Finally, because we have systems in place. If a child needs a specialized placement, the parents can and should go about getting one, even if it's just a COSA to a school with new social dynamics. But what MCPS should not do is provide a bespoke education with 5 kids to a class just for kids who have a parent at home. [/quote]

I'm not who you quoted; I'm the RTSE who is being made to think I'm crazy and evil for saying the MVA can't provide FAPE for certain students.

Like, I've literally been in IEP meetings where MVA wasn't an option due to FAPE not being able to be provided.

I am not speaking out against the MVA or for the MVA.

With that said, it sounds like the person who said to me a few posts above "you haven't been paying attention" is implying that the MVA and MCPS are knowingly violating IDEA and not following iEPs because the parents signed a waiver? If that's true, that's kinda crazy.[/quote]

I appreciate you trying to bring some facts and your experience into this conversation. The problem is that the person (people?) posting the most here in support of the MVA is the worst possible ambassador for the program because they cannot accept anything other than blind support for the program. They will call you names, say you hate your kids, tell you you're horrible, you're wrong, you don't know what you're talking about, you're selfish, YOUR school should be closed, YOUR kid should have to suffer, etc. regardless of what point you raise.

I thought your contribution to this thread was helpful, but they treated you the same way they treat the trolls who yell back at them.

I wouldn't bother engaging with this person on actual facts relating to FAPE, IEP, COSA, etc. You are far more knowledgeable than they are, and anything you say will be met with hostility, ad hominem attacks and baseless accusations that you're wrong, confused and don't have real experience with the MVA so should just stay quiet. [/quote].

So should you.  Why are we angry? Because this person is another ignorant “leader”  in mcps.  [b]The special education department is not one I would listen to in MCPS.   They fail our children on a daily basis.[/b] [/quote]

My son started MCPS special education as part of Infants and Toddlers.  He's gone to PEP, the now Connections program, and non public placement.  He did IIS while we waited for non public placement.  I don't feel that MCPS has failed my child.  I feel that they have supported him in a way that I could never afford to do if I had to pay for private.  I don't comment a lot on the venting posts because my experience seems so vastly different than the people who are venting.  But I want you to know there is at least one person out there that has had a positive MCPS special education experience.[/quote]

That’s great but you aren’t in MCPS. So they aren’t serving your child directly in the school.  It’s vastly different.   [/quote]

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