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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This whole argument is crazy. Different states have different cut off dates in The US. In WY, child must be 5 by August 1st for example.

We started in VA, with a a late September birthday boy that was born premature. Did not send to school when he was 4, because:

1) Kid is a very active boy (still is) did not have the capability to stay seated for hours at 4
2) If you adjust the age for due date, child would not have made the cut off in VA
3) When kid started school we want to move to Maryland that has a September 1st cut off

Judge me away, child went at 5 and yes they will be 18 their most of their Senior year, just like the October and November birthdays AND ALL their September birthday friends in Maryland.

Focus on your child and let the parents worry about their kids.
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What is actually crazy is your inability to read the OP or understand that no one is arguing someone in your position shouldn't be allowed to redshirt.

This thread was created because there is an increasing trend in SOME places (not all, as many school districts are more rigid about it) to redshirt kids who are nowhere near the cut-off and have no developmental reason or keeping them back.

Literally not a single comment on this thread has indicated that anyone is bothered by someone holding a September birthday back so he can start K at 5 instead of at 4. That's absolutely what I would do too, in that situation.

What some of you don't seem to get is that most of us are not "anti-redshirters," we're fine with redshirting as it has historically been done -- for kids with birthdays near the deadline who simply are not ready to start K.

This thread is about people who have kids whose birthdays are nowhere close to the deadline, but abuse liberal redshirting rules because they want their kid to be bigger and "more advanced" in school. It's a weird thing to do but it absolutely happens. My sister lives in a district like this. A lot of it is done by families who are obsessed with athletes and will tell you point blank that they do it to increase the odds that their kid will make varsity or get recruited by colleges (keep in mind the kids in question are 5 and 6 years old). It sucks because as many posters have explained on the thread, it creates large age ranges in grades that make it harder for teachers to teach to a median maturity level, can increase bullying and exclusion (even of kids who are "on target" age wise but may still be a year or more younger than some of these redshirted kids), and can wreak havoc when the kids go through puberty.

If you aren't in a district like this, great!  Redshirting where you live is probably normal and people mainly do it for reasons like this PP, which make perfect sense.

But there are place where people are increasingly redshirting kids with spring and even winter birthdays for athletic and academic advantage and it's a real issue.[/quote]

I dont buy that OP’s experience isn’t an outlier and I don’t think it’s part of a trend.  I also don’t think OP is privy to any information about these three kids, their needs or background, in order to determine that there wasn’t a recent for the holding back - she simply has no idea.  All she knows is their age.

As for sports, if that’s what your friends are saying it’s pretty uneducated.  Most club sports and big tournaments go by birth year and that is where the college recruiting comes from.  Lacrosse was one of the hold outs for class year, but changed to birth year recently.[/quote]

It’s high school sports are by grade.  That’s what [/quote]

That PP was specifically talking about getting recruited.  No one these days is getting recruited by playing on a high school team.  It’s through clubs and travel tours with spotlight tournaments and none of that is happening by grade year.  If you are going to redshirt for this reason, then you should at least know what the rules are.[/quote]

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