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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now.  Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit).  App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor.  And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. [b]My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible.  It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go.[/b]  Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken.  DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

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This is how my family views it too.  We will always pause with allowing our daughters to go to red states with restrictive abortion laws, but won't rule them out entirely.  But the way FL's politicians can't keep their politics out of college policy gives me pause and we would not consider any FL schools. And I can't imagine it is much fun for professors, which has to translate into how they teach.  And we could use the FL grandparents waiver. We spend as little money as possible in FL when we have to visit family, but don't have that same view of other southern red states. And while I am liberal, I am not any sane person's definition of a whacky liberal.[/quote]

Consciously not spending money in a state you disagree with is absolutely something a “whacky liberal” would do. It’s petulant, weird, and representative of extreme behavior. You may not glue yourself to I-95 but normal/moderate people don’t respond so emotionally to perceived political blasphemy. That stems from you self-righteous attitude and your false sense of moral superiority.  Just be a proud “whacky liberal” and own it.[/quote]

Similar to the "whacky righties" who don't want to spend money in communist CA, right? Those exist too. [/quote]

Yes, exactly. That is why I specified normal/moderate people, understand? Both fringes are exactly the same, just worship different ideologies. This isn't hard.[/quote]

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