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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is a way of destroying America history to satisfy people who don’t really care.  God bless what America use to be😢[/quote]

It's destroying American history to redesign a plaza from 1982 that has a statue that is a smaller replica of a statue that literally is in the center of the city on top of what used to be the tallest point in the city, making it visible from everywhere? Please do explain how something put up 40 years ago is so sacrosanct, when it's not even an original.

Were you this roiled up when the skyscrapers were built that blocked the view of the ORIGINAL statue you are so nostalgic about? Did you even know this statue existed before Fox News and Twitter told you about it?[/quote]

Yeah, like most Philadelphians, I was outraged when they raised building height. It wasn't just about William Penn (and I was raised as a member of Central Philadelphia meeting), and my ancestors were Quakers in Pennsylvania. It wasn't really about William Penn at all.

It was something unique that made our skyline special, kept it to a human scale. Philadelphia has always been one of the most walkable, well-designed cities with a solid residential core in the entire country.

But that's beside the point. [b]This thread is full of trolls calling William Penn a racist slave owner who deserves to be wiped from history. This kind of simplistic revisioning of the past is quite dangerous.[/b] [/quote]

But the OP posted about a statue being removed and that brought out trolls who have never given 2 sh!ts about public art to start crying about "history being erased" when that is not what is happening with the decision to upgrade and redesign a dismal plaza space.
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Removing Penn's statue is simply silly.  It is WOKE going too far.  Certainly, we can add statues of others, but Penn's removal is bizarre. 
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Where did it say it was being removed for “woke” reasons?? From the NPS not some random DCUM poster making that claim. [/quote]

DP.  This is directly from the NPS website:

PHILADELPHIA — The National Park Service proposes to rehabilitate Welcome Park to provide a more welcoming, accurate, and inclusive experience for visitors. 
https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/news/park-seeks-input-on-the-rehabilitation-of-welcome-park.htm[/quote]

DP where does it say Penn is being removed for any reason related to “woke”? Oh that’s right it does not. Your Jihad against “wokeness” has made you a clueless conservative “woke” warrior. Better head back to the Ackman and Ivy League thread. You can crusade for your right to call people the n-word while attacking and labeling as antisemitic all those people who criticize Israel. 
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“The proposed rehabilitation of Welcome Park includes expanded interpretation of the Native American history of Philadelphia and was developed in consultation with representatives of the indigenous nations of the Haudenosaunee, the Delaware Nation, Delaware Tribe of Indians, the Shawnee Tribe, and the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma. The reimagined Welcome Park maintains certain aspects of the original design such as the street grid, the rivers and the east wall while adding a new planted buffer on three sides, and a ceremonial gathering space with circular benches. The Penn statue and Slate Roof house model will be removed and not reinstalled. In a separate and future effort, new exhibit panels will be installed on the south site wall to replace the Penn timeline.“

The site says they are removing the statue of Penn and his “timeline” and replacing those with the timeline of the Native American tribes, and you don’t think wokeness has anything to do with it?[/quote]

Does it say that Penn will not be discussed in the “new exhibit panels”? If so you didn’t cut and paste that bit. Do you have insider information about the content of the new exhibit panels? [/quote]

No, but you must. If they are erasing everything that has to do with Penn, what is the new timeline developed with the Native American tribes going to say about Penn?

I see you are highly offended I cut information that details the situation accurately. Why is that? You don’t like accurate information from the source? You want people to make up information and/or participate in disinformation? Why is the truth so offensive to you?

People need to cut and paste accurate information and provide links and citations to reputable sources when discussing things here. It’s only the people who want to control or manipulate the news that don’t want the facts to be explained and cited.

You really think cutting a paragraph from the actual article is an insult? That says so much about your judgement.

The actual source is clear Penn is being removed. You can make up your own story about the situation. You can type your opinion and make guesses about it. But the actual facts offend you, you are a joke.[/quote]

Word salad

Nothing in the NPS report said that Penn would be excluded from new panels.

You don’t know much about history or Penn if you think there’s nothing to say about Penn and Native Americans. Maybe read a bio about the man you pretend is one of your heroes before you spout such nonsense.

And as it has been pointed out, he was in his time a woke pacifist progressive. Glad you admire him so. 
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