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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's fine.  "Middle class striver" values are hard work, the importance of education and knowledge, and earning a good living.   Those are the types of values I want to inculcate in my children.[/quote]

Interesting. I really dislike/reject the pervasive idea that if my teen isn't decked out head to toe in Lululemon with regular hair highlights and a $50/week Starbucks habit that there is some wrong/lacking in our family. IYKYK. [/quote]

Yes, I despise this culture and it seems to be ubiquitous in all the DMV affluent areas. So shallow and boring, producing so many vapid and uber-spoiled kids.[/quote]

Yes.  We moved from DC a few yrs ago to a mid sized middle class town.  My teen has zero interest in lululemon, Starbucks, Stanley cups and high end skincare and makeup. It just isn’t on her radar at all, or that of her friends’ and schoolmates from what I gather.[/quote]

I always hear about Lululemon online. Lululemon is really not all that expensive. I have boys though who don’t care about brands.

I grew up in an affluent neighborhood. I was very confident and always got a lot of attention from the guys. A cute dress doesn’t have to be brand name. Your makeup also doesn’t have to be expensive.

Even as a middle aged woman, I see woman who spend a lot of money on makeup and that doesn’t mean she is prettier.

Teach your girls to be confident.

My friend was looking for gifts for her teen nieces and nephews. I said I read online about Stanley cups and Lululemon. She just bought it and didn’t consider it an expensive gift. Same with uggs or crocs. I hardly think these items are expensive.[/quote]

Really? You don’t think $100 leggings, $120 hoodie, $45 water bottle and $100 slippers, $50 eye shadow palette  is totally normal for a 12 yr old?[/quote]

Not PP but i also don't find this to be a big deal. All these items taken together (<$500) are less expensive than a good phone not to mention travel and activities. it's really a drop on the bucket.

That said, I also agree with PP that boys don't care about any of that crap. They don't care about your leggings or the brand of your makeup. If you are are hot you can dress at Walmart. Teach your girls that they don't need to follow the herd - certainly not all of the time.[/quote]

DD learned in HS that the "herd" was vapid, mean, troubled and problematic - they were barely good friends to each other.  DD moved on, and it was the best thing that ever happened to her.

Teach your child to make good friends, with good people, and like all relationships, to choose wisely - not to aspire to those who are the self described "popular" kids.  The popular kids usually peak in HS - find people (DD or DS) who want the same as you, not stunted HS behaviors. [/quote]

This presumes there are other friend options. [/quote]

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