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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a millennial and chalked up the lack of kids to [b]being in a high-achieving cohort. Maybe half of us have kids? The other half aren't married.[/b] I don't many that are childless by choice (as far as I know). My friends both gay and straight that are married by in large have kids usually 2-3. But I myself hit total unexplained secondary infertility at 35 so have 2 kids but am unlikely to have 3.

My husband is in the military and in his friend group we only know 2 childless by choice couples. Most men have 1 if not 2 sets of kids by different women thanks to the damage the many years in war did on their personal lives.

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It’s funny how individual the definition of “achievement” is because if you’re in your 30s unmarried and/or married and childless for a reason other than infertility I would define this as a massive life failure. As would most of my “cohort” (all who have good high paying jobs). [/quote]

Birthing babies is not an "achievement".[/quote]

It's the most important achievement.  Passing on one's genes is the reason for being.[/quote]

No that's bottom of the barrel with respect to "achievements". Leaving a mark on the world is an achievement. [/quote]

DP. Raising two really good, kind, responsible people is my mark on the world. It’s the most important thing I personally will ever achieve. [/quote]

A mark that almost nobody knows about or cares about except you and a handful of friends/family is not an achievement.

It's just a selfish indulgent act. Nobody wants you to have kids except yourself. [/quote]

This is the dumbest take. We should all want more people to raise good, kind people who will contribute positively to society. If nobody does that, society will collapse. Maybe you don’t care if that happens because you’ll be dead by the time it does—but that view is what’s actually selfish. [/quote]

But we don't people raise kids to go to Ivy's and then crash the economy shorting stocks or become lawyers who are the dregs of society.

You might think you are raising great kids but you don't really know and there is not guarantee. Plus, the amount of resources kids are using up it's not good for the earth. [/quote]

You have a very sad view of the world. I'm sorry you apparently only know crappy humans. [/quote]

I don't know crappy humans. I know humans, we live our lives, then we die. We don't call it an accomplishment to not be a d$ck.[/quote]

DP but wow this thread. Your kids, if you have them, deserve more than this sad state you are currently in. I wouldn’t get out of bed if my worldview matched yours. Just horrifically sad. [/quote]

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