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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How does DCUM feel about Chicago being out of the top 10 in all major US rankings now (USNWR, WSJ, Forbes)? It has been a magnet for DC area students, especially from particular private schools where a number of kids were applying ED2. Does it make applying ED2 to Hopkins looks a little better now?[/quote] Ranking changes do not change actual prestige. The tail does not wag the dog. US News is getting sillier and sillier.[/quote] USNEWS said it themselves in this article, which also outlines updates to methodology: https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/articles/2023-08-25/2024-best-colleges-rankings-coming-sept-18 [quote]Changes in methodology will induce changes in rank. There tend to be smaller changes in rank among those schools that typically place toward the very top or very bottom of the rankings. That's because their separation from most other schools insulates them somewhat from adjustments in methodological approach. In contrast, schools with data that resembles the breadth of other schools – which typically place toward the middle of the rankings, tied with several others – tend to incur changes that are larger in scale.[/quote] Bottom line, elite schools will remain in the top 20...they'll continue to shift around year to year, but they are typically reliably always ranked highly because they have the breadth of qualities needed to stay there. [/quote] Or is the arbitrary cutoff top 15 or 25 or 30? There are not too many schools that are in even the top 25 of the recent USNWR, WSJ, and Forbes rankings this year. Even Brown, Willams, Chicago, Notre Dame, CalTech, Pomona, and Hopkins wouldn't make it for all 3. Not surprising that HYPSM are highly ranked in all 3. Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell, Georgetown, and USC also make the top 25 in all 3 rankings. For LACs, only Amherst and Swarthmore are in the top 25 of all 3 (Forbes and WSJ rank LACs in with national universities). There are not too many schools that rank consistently high regardless of methodology changes. [/quote] USC isn't top 25. I believe Vandy made T25 for all 3. [/quote] Yes, Vandy did! It surprises me that more people don't use Vandy as a great ED2 option in the DC area. USC did fall out of the top 25 this year in USNWR! Only 15 schools make the T25 for the 3 lists: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell, Georgetown, Amherst, Swarthmore, and Vanderbilt.[/quote]
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