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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I always find it weird how American cyclists want there to be as many cyclists as there are in Amsterdam and talk about how wonderful biking is there, but then ignore the fact that cyclists there have real responsibilities and have to stop at red lights like everyone else. You get the same sort of discussion when people talk about Portuguese decriminalization of drugs - everyone talks about the decriminalization part, but few talk about the mandatory treatment part.

People want all the benefits but none of the responsibilities that are needed to make these things function.[/quote]

Nah, we also want the stop lights and road infrastructure updated to be more like the netherlands.  Where there is greater separation from cars, fewer stop lights overall, separate signals for cars from other modes of traffic THAT MAKES THE CAR THE LOWER PRIORITY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION LIKE IT SHOULD BE.[/quote]

But without the extensive tram, train and subway network.  So in other words, nothing at all like the Netherlands.[/quote]

Last I checked, it was Goodyear and the big Auto companies that bought up all of our electric street car network, shut them down, paved it over, and made it drivers only.  The biggest problem with the H St streetcar is that it has to share the road with cars and sit in traffic.  And we, at least in this city, have a pretty decent metro network, with light and heavy rail connecting it.[/quote]

Goodyear?  The bicycle tire company!  That's hilarious.[/quote]

Do you take cream with your motor oil in the morning?  Idiot carbrain.[/quote]

It's not my fault that you didn't know that Goodyear was founded as a bicycle tire company before coming up with your insane conspiracy theory regarding big rubber.  Should we demand reparations from Liberia?[/quote]

It's not a conspiracy theory.  The fact that a company started as one thing a hundred years before it became something else doesn't change the fact that there was a concerted effort by a combination of the tire industry, oil, and automobile industry in the early to mid 20th century to systematically buy up street car networks, demolish them, and replace with buses.  National City Lines, Pacific City Lines, American City Lines are all companies that existed and were subsidaries of GM that were funded by many others in the supply chain for cars.

Moron.[/quote]

You sound like a freshman in college.

You don’t have to come with tortured readings of history to explain why our transportation system is build around cars.

[b]The answer is obvious: our transportation system is built around cars because that’s how people want it.[/b] Of all the possible ways to travel, cars are the most popular by a mile.

Sorry, people don’t want to ride **cking bicycles. If they did, they would. [/quote]

DP - but you actually sound like a freshman in college with this superficial response.  You are clearly comfortable in your complete and utter ignorance of the history of transportation but more embarrassingly, you also seem completely ignorant of the psychology of advertising (for example).  People may *think* this car-based system is what they want… but is it really?  Have they ever been exposed to an alternative?  And more fundamentally, maybe explore WHY this is what they want…[/quote]

You think people have never heard of bikes? You think they’re unfamiliar with the experience of riding a bike? People don’t want to ride bikes because they think biking sucks compared to their other options. You seem to have a hard time accepting that.

It’s like you’re a spokesman for the cauliflower industry and you can’t accept that people honestly believe cauliflower sucks so you have all these silly arguments about how cauliflower was never really given a fair shot because of mean corporations or magazine ads or whatever the *uck so how can people really know that they don’t love cauliflower? [/quote]

Jesus, PP, I’m sorry, ok?  I didn’t realize that you, undoubtedly a typical American, are so fat and lazy and out of shape that the mere thought of physical exertion sends you into a rage, while also bringing up all those painful memories of being made to eat vegetables.  [/quote]

Riding a bike is not real exercise. Aside from walking, hard to think of something that is less strenuous. Probably why cyclists are always so porky. [/quote]

Now I'm really confused. Is biking an easy mode of transportation, and thus accessible to the elderly and kids, or is it too strenuous and therefore real exercise?[/quote]

Old people and bikes seems like a spectacularly bad idea. Breaking a hip is frequently a death sentence. [/quote]

Old people and car-first design is a spectacularly bad idea. Just ask the AARP.

https://www.aarp.org/livable-communities/getting-around/info-2018/complete-street-example.html

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