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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think they're just really bad parents. I forgot about this one just a year or two after their toddler drowned because they weren't paying attention to her. https://www.etonline.com/bode-miller-and-wife-morgans-son-has-seizure-is-rushed-to-same-hospital-where-their-daughter-died[/quote] How is a child having a seizure the parent’s fault? I agree with you they aren’t good people, but this isn’t a good example. [/quote] They had a perfectly healthy daughter who died because [b]she was unsupervised at a pool party [/b]and drowned. If she had a seizure while being resuscitated is not the point. If they had paid for a babysitter that day or simply watched their kid, she would be alive.[/quote] It wasn’t even a pool party. It was a visit to a family - a playdate. How hard os it to watch your toddler??[/quote] I haven't liked them since the Sarh Mckenna thing either. However, it takes only 20 seconds for a 2-year old to drown. I watched my babies like a hawk around water, but when that happened, it felt like it could have been us and I mourned with them. I am sure she's not the only parent who's looked away for ~ 20 seconds. It was horrible. [/quote] They didn't look away, they were nowhere near the kid.[/quote] The toddler literally left the house. How does that happen on a playdate in someone else’s home?[/quote] You’re making it seem like the kid opened the door and walked 3 blocks away and fell in a pool. Morgan was in the kitchen and the child had been in the attached family/living room (I think articles said it was an open layout). The child opened a french door from the family room/living room and the pool was right there attached to the patio. No idea where Bode was, but Morgan was provably less than 20’ from her daughter and didn’t see her open the door. [b]I’m sure they didn’t except the backdoor to be unlocked but even if it was, they still didn’t expect their child to fall into a pool and drown.[/b] [/quote] How do you know this for sure? If you go to a house with a pool, first you check yourself to make sure doors are locked and can’t be opened by kids before they are out of your sight. You sit near them on the play date, you don’t stay in the kitchen gabbing while your 19 month old wanders off in someone’s home unattended. I learned basic pool safety with kids when I was a teenager and babysat for a family that had a pool. The mom was neurotic about pool safety. One thing she did was always lock the back door that opened to the pool. It was a lock that was at the top of the door that only an adult could open. She always also made sure the pool gate was shut and latched. She would double check it as soon as kids arrived at her house. [/quote] Also, kids that young should never be out of your sight. [/quote] [b]Agree, Morgan was sipping tea with her neighbor [/b]and did not have eyes on her the whole time. And it was probably several minutes, maybe 4 min, not 20 seconds that she did not have eyes on the toddler. [/quote]She was at a tea party?[/quote] Visiting next door neighbor. Having tea in kitchen. Not a party. Not an evening gathering. Just a playdate, had been there many times. [/quote] It was 630 in the evening when she drowned. Not sure why you keep trying to downplay this as a playdate. It’s never been reported as playdate. There was no wild party as was initially reported, but multiple people were at the neighbors house. https://people.com/parents/bode-miller-daughter-drowning-death-details/[/quote] Your links says only a couple of people were there. "Contrary to rumors of a larger gathering, Concialdi says only “a couple of people” were at the neighbor’s house when Emeline wandered away, and “nobody was in the backyard” during the incident."[/quote] Is that supposed to be better? That makes it worse. There were only a few people so it wasn't chaotic. They should have known where she was at all times.[/quote] Exactly, it was not a chaotic situation. It was not a pool party. It was not a party. It was two moms having tea, older boys playing together in the house, toddler wandering around the house by herself. She didn’t have eyes on the toddler. It was only when she couldn’t hear her toddler anymore, that she checked. Toddler had gone out the back door and walked into the pool. Several minutes went by. Sorry, all you people saying it could happen to anyone - no. This wouldn’t happen to me. And it wouldn’t happen to me that my kids get carbon monoxide poisoning outside because they’re by themselves watching a large vehicle. And it wouldn’t happen to me that I am involved in a lawsuit to get custody of an unborn child or another child for whom I’m not even the biological mother. They have poor judgement.[/quote] Two things can be true at the same time. These particular people may have poor judgment, and it can happen to anyone. I honestly find the attitude of the “never me” posters dangerous.[/quote] I find the “it can happen to anyone” mentality dangerous.[/quote] No, it is true. And understanding that this statement is true could literally be lifesaving (because you understand the need for physical barriers like four sided fencing). Human vigilance is the weakest link in the chain. [b]I have literally heard a mom whose child drowned in the backyard pool say, “I thought this only happened to people who did not watch their children.”[/b][/quote] Someone wasn’t watching her child, or the child would not have drowned in a backyard pool. Backyard and municipal pool drownings are always a result of somebody’s negligence, full stop. Every single such drowning is entirely preventable with proper supervision. Drownings on open water can be a result of weather/water conditions, but even then usually involve some level of poor judgment employed by the child’s parents or guardians - i.e., knowing better than to let a child swim in rip tide conditions or in big waves without wearing a PFD, or knowing to supervise little kids so they don’t wander down to the pond adjacent to your property. The only drownings that occur which I would not hold parents/guardians fully responsible for are secondary drownings. Because of poor education many parents don’t even know this phenomenon exists, or that it can happen to any kid who inhales a little bit of water in the bath or while swimming recreationally. [/quote] You are literally arguing with someone who is a drowning prevention expert. Just stop before you dig yourself a deeper hole. [b]Relying on caretaker infallibility as the primary measure for keeping kids safe is exactly why drowning is the leading of cause of death for toddlers in the United States. [/b]I hope that you and the sanctimonious state legislators who share your world view see what it has wrought. Time to move past the dated, flawed strategy of telling everyone to “careful” and “always watch their children.” [/quote] Because the caretakers were negligent. It’s inexcusable to not have eyes on your toddler when there is a pool nearby and you aren’t even swimming.[/quote]
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