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But that would mean her child is not “gifted”. What a tragedy! Instead her child [b]is[/b] [b][u]gifted[/u][/b], and the others are cheating.[/quote]
AAP is not a gifted program.
When a child actively prepares for tests, including COGAT, NNAT, SOL, etc. it demonstrates their appreciation for and interest in learning. In this regard, they are likely to adapt well to the AAP program. While it is not a very good program for truly gifted children, it does provide an excellent opportunity for students who are motivated to delve deeper into their studies compared to their peers in general education. [/quote]

The commonwealth of Virginia requires a gifted program for schools. AAP is the gifted program for FCPS.  And it's a good program for my "actually" gifted kid as well as my "only 120s IQ" kid.

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AAP is NOT a gifted program, but fcps fulfills the gifted mandate through the aap program.

Truly gifted children aren’t being served. [/quote]

Fwiw, the design of the center school system is to both provide a curriculum (the implementation varies by school and teacher) [i]and[/i] to provide a cohort of a large number of gifted kids as well as some bright kids (which also varies by school and class).  [b]The cohort is the most valuable and beneficial part of the program for "truly gifted kids[/b]".  [/quote]

That is true, but the highly gifted kids, let’s say 140-145+ are underserved. And that’s what it is. The point is that the way the program is designed as of now, mildly gifted kids belong there. They are there to expand the program.

If aap as it is now disappears, then the highly gifted will have to have an exclusive program to fulfill the mandate. That will sit ill with soooo many people.

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What would the AAP as is now be replaced with? A program for 145+ kids, would have about 15 kids per grade over the entire district. It would make absolutely no sense for many reasons: commuting 30+ miles for elementary students, funding, etc. why would the public school system set up an alternate school for a very tiny sliver of students? By lowering the bar, more students get in and there’s more public support for the program.[/quote]

It would make sense for those profoundly gifted kids. I don’t think there are as few as 15 per grade, but if that number is correct it shows how underserved those kids really are.

But the current approach to aap is that more kids can benefit, and that’s fine. We are sacrificing a very important segment of kids. Often their parents fill the gap, but not for most of those kids, and that’s sad for so many.

There are real and hard consequences for the profoundly gifted. And it’s surprising that we don’t foster and support them adequately, because they’re the ones that will make inventions, find cures, etc. [/quote]

Kids like this will be fine no matter what we do. Our main focus needs to be on equity and closing the achievement gap. This requires all our resources.[/quote]
[b]This is why our public school system fails, looking at the lowest common denominator to close the achievement gap so everyone fails… the successful public school systems in the country support their best students so the lower achievers can be pulled up by peer pressure and parental pressure…[/b] [/quote]

I agree with the PP who says the lowest common denominator approach will destroy the education quality of FCPS.  It's not good for the average or above average or gifted to drag them down to the level of the least well prepared kid in school. Not sure why parents put with this.  Less testing, fewer administrators, and more targeted teaching at all levels is necessary. [/quote]

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