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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To PPs who advocate that religion and science are always in conflict — (this is not a dig at atheists but simply
Addressing the shortcomings of that conflict typology for relationship between science and religion) ..

Scientific reasoning grew out of religious/ philosophical reasoning over hundreds of years. Further, science at high conceptual levels requires creativity and imagination. Science is not black and white, and neither is religion.

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[b]Commentary: Thinking differently about science and religion[/b]
Tom McLeish
(tom.mcleish@york.ac.uk) University of York, Heslington, York, UK
Physics Today 71, 2, 10 (2018);

Maintaining the “alternative fact” that science and religion, and in particular Christianity, are in conflict is hurting science. Over the past year, three occasions have left me with strong visual memories and deep impressions that point towards a better approach …

Common across the three occasions is the theme of surprisingly deep and constructive mutual engagement of science and religious belief. The conference on shale-gas recovery was between academic Earth scientists and a few dozen senior church leaders, including bishops of the Church of England. The author of the impressive New Testament scholarship was Isaac Newton. And the play that so impressed me, staged by the Riding Lights Theatre Company in the elegant renaissance church of St Michael le Belfrey in York, featured a 20th-century Job as a research physicist. 
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/PT.3.3831

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[b]Science and Religion[/b]
The great courses 
Lawrence M. Principe, Ph.D.
InstitutionJohns Hopkins University
Alma materHistory of Science, Johns Hopkins University

Two crucial forces, science and religion, helped shape Western civilization and continue to interact in our daily lives. What is the nature of their relationship? When do they conflict, and how do they influence each other in pursuit of knowledge and truth? Contrary to prevailing notions that they must perpetually clash, science and theology have actually been partners in an age-old adventure. This course covers both the historical sweep and philosophical flashpoints of this epic interaction.
Professor Lawrence M. Principe unfolds a surprisingly cooperative dynamic in which theologians and natural scientists share methods, ideas, aspirations, and a tradition of disputational dialogue.
https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/science-and-religion

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[b]Faith Reason and Science [/b]
Philosophy Talk 
Does faith obscure reason? Does reason obscure faith? Or perhaps their subject matters are different. Faith might address one area of our lives and reason and science another. Faith may allow us to see meaning, values, and God, while reason sees everything else, whatever that may be. Or perhaps faith and reason are fundamentally intertwined. Is faith void of reason? Is it irrational to be faithful? Are science and rationality void of faith? John and Ken welcome Nancey Murphy, author of Did My Neurons Make Me Do It?: Philosophical and Neurobiological Perspectives on Moral Responsibility and Free Will, to explore the meaning of faith and the place of faith and reason in religion, scientific practice, and our knowledge of ourselves and the world around us

https://www.philosophytalk.org/shows/faith-reason-and-science

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If science and religion are properly understood, they cannot be in contradiction because they concern different matters. Science and religion are like two different windows for looking at the world. The two windows look at the same world, but they show different aspects of that world.
https://www.ineos.com/inch-magazine/articles/issue-7/debate/

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You could say the same for sorcery, or Tarot cards or anything that takes alternatives to science seriously.

If  you like religion - fine.  Enjoy it. Believe it. teach it to your children.  Just don't equate with science and don't expect other people to believe as you do. [/quote]

And if you want to live in a dogmatic ahistorical echo chamber please go ahead. Apparently you already are …
Someone with many family members and friends who are both scientists and people of faith …[/quote]

Notice how religious pp is insulting and previous pp is not.  This kind of response is common among some religious people  - they feel they have the right to insult people who do not believe the way that they do.[/quote]

No I noticed atheist PP was patronizing and intellectually close minded … while claiming to have a superior grasp on truth without evidence he/ she claims to be beholden to …

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Religious pp is being insulting again and making spurious claims.  They just can't help it.  Thankfully , not all religious people are like this.   [b]I'm not sure this behavior is even related to  religion.  It may be more of a personality defect exacerbated by extreme religious beliefs [/b]and discomfort with people who do not share them.[/quote]

So you don't think it's related to religion, but it's related to religion? Interesting premise. You are one of the most illogical posters in the religion forums, and that's really saying something.[/quote]

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